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  1. #61
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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    So.. Spoilers for Stormblood but....

    Every time I see a Lalafell tanking I'm reminded of that scene where Lyse kicks a Namazu high into the air and wonder, why doesn't it work like that on Lalafell?
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    I really would be very hesitant on saying that certain races are going to be popular with specific genders or groups. That may well be the designer's intention, but it can be very difficult to put into practise.

    Personally I fully support player's being able to choose whichever race they want, I find it incredible that anyone would harass someone choosing to play a lala- by that I mean spamming emotes, following them, kicking them, etc.

    That being said, I absolutely detest the design of lalas, I find them saccharine -sweet to the point of ugliness with their waddling, and I find that glamour looks horrible on them.

    However, all that being said, I still get a good laugh if I find myself ever following a teeny brave lala tank, so thank you !!
    I am obviously generalizing, but if you actually look at the games women at large statistically play what I am saying is backed up.
    The most popular genres amongst women after mobile games ( which has a lot of genres in and of itself too ) is JRPG's and puzzle games etc, the least popular are the typical '' dudebro '' and gritty games ( military shooters etc ).
    I don't think that it's unfair to assume that this extends to the race distribution in MMO's too.
    There's a reason why games like Genshin Impact and FFXIV have such large female playerbases.
    Or why JRPG's are so popular amongst women.
    That's not to say that there aren't women who play FPS games like CoD or an Orc or Undead in WoW or that they should be ignored.

    I dunno about Lalafells in particular I mean I see a ton of men play them too, altho when I look at streamers most male streamers who play them basically play them for the meme while with female streamers it tends to be a bit more genuine.
    But I was just making an overall point about the mindset behind it.
    I think that a woman playing a Lalafell is less taboo and people won't sneer on it as much as if a man plays one and there is a reason for that.
    I am not saying that the reason is good I am just making an observation.

    I dunno if Lalafell in particular was designed with that logic, but I know that the Lyn in Blade and Soul were at least the devs outright said it.
    They were meant to be more like demons/ monsters at first but were re-designed for that reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by EzekielBook View Post
    Is there an actual breakdown of races and classes anywhere? Or is this just going by anecdotal evidence?
    I've seen it posted before I cba to look it up atm tbh.
    But the numbers are what you'd expect pretty much altho it actually did surprise me how overwhelmingly popular Miqo'Te are, it doesn't quite feel like that ingame.
    Not to the extreme extent that I saw at least.
    Then again Viera I remember were also way less popular than I imagined.

    In the end of the day tho you can't get completely accurate numbers on this only the devs can get that but you can get a pretty good idea.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 10-01-2021 at 07:28 AM.

  3. #63
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EzekielBook View Post
    Is there an actual breakdown of races and classes anywhere? Or is this just going by anecdotal evidence?
    This thread has a breakdown from July.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/440103
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    So.. Spoilers for Stormblood but....

    Every time I see a Lalafell tanking I'm reminded of that scene where Lyse kicks a Namazu high into the air and wonder, why doesn't it work like that on Lalafell?
    Same reason it doesn't work on you when you fight Titan or the other thousand skyscraper sized bosses.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I am obviously generalizing, but if you actually look at the games women at large statistically play what I am saying is backed up.
    The most popular genres amongst women after mobile games ( which has a lot of genres in and of itself too ) is JRPG's and puzzle games etc, the least popular are the typical '' dudebro '' and gritty games ( military shooters etc ).
    I don't think that it's unfair to assume that this extends to the race distribution in MMO's too.
    There's a reason why games like Genshin Impact and FFXIV have such large female playerbases.
    Or why JRPG's are so popular amongst women.
    That's not to say that there aren't women who play FPS games like CoD or an Orc or Undead in WoW or that they should be ignored.

    I dunno about Lalafells in particular I mean I see a ton of men play them too, altho when I look at streamers most male streamers who play them basically play them for the meme while with female streamers it tends to be a bit more genuine.
    But I was just making an overall point about the mindset behind it.
    I think that a woman playing a Lalafell is less taboo and people won't sneer on it as much as if a man plays one and there is a reason for that.
    I am not saying that the reason is good I am just making an observation.

    I dunno if Lalafell in particular was designed with that logic, but I know that the Lyn in Blade and Soul were at least the devs outright said it.
    They were meant to be more like demons/ monsters at first but were re-designed for that reason.



    I've seen it posted before I cba to look it up atm tbh.
    But the numbers are what you'd expect pretty much altho it actually did surprise me how overwhelmingly popular Miqo'Te are, it doesn't quite feel like that ingame.
    Not to the extreme extent that I saw at least.
    Then again Viera I remember were also way less popular than I imagined.

    In the end of the day tho you can't get completely accurate numbers on this only the devs can get that but you can get a pretty good idea.
    It's funny you mentioned the Lynn in Blade and Soul, I was forced to select Lynn because it was the only allowable race for the class that I played, and I pushed the character configuration to its limits to basically make that Lynn look as grown-up as I could. If you know the glamours in that game, I was sad whenever I compared that character to any of my alts. I actually rolled one alt just to take advantage of the glamours.
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  6. #66
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    My main is a lala bc I find her adorable and I love the expressive emotes. I find i can make many glamours work for her. I’ve never, not once thought of her as a child. I could care less what others say on the topic as well. My lala is an adult.

    My alt is a hyur and is my irl height for times when I want to be at eye level with others, including npcs.
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  7. #67
    Player Lanadra's Avatar
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    Alessia Adaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolli282 View Post
    My main is a lala bc I find her adorable and I love the expressive emotes. I find i can make many glamours work for her. I’ve never, not once thought of her as a child. I could care less what others say on the topic as well. My lala is an adult.

    My alt is a hyur and is my irl height for times when I want to be at eye level with others, including npcs.
    I mean there's no real arguing about it anyway. The game's setting and narrative shows us that Lalafell are anything but children. It's only us who insist on such notions for no other reason than 'they look like it!'. No one in the game's narrative treats Lalafells like Lolorito, Teledji or Tataru like little children.

    In reality.. and unlike races like the Elin and Lynn in TERA and Blade&Soul respectively, the Lalafells much more compare to what western fantasy settings/RPGs/MMO's usually have.. Dwarves. We often just can't move beyond the design that makes us think 'little kid'.
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    Last edited by Lanadra; 10-01-2021 at 06:07 PM.

  8. #68
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    What I don't like about Lalafell is that they look like unfinished artist renderings out of a learn how to draw book. The basic shapes are there but none of the finished details.
    I'd probably roll one if they actually looked like something other than some balloons with eyes drawn on them.
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  9. #69
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    Lalafell are a meme race because they're small, and meme races get dunked on.

    I don't agree with it, but that's just the way it is in NA.
    I'd say this is true in this game.
    I can't recall it has same stamp in FF11 but in that game starting stats had a more importance and tarutaru (lalafell counterpart and is based on) had bigger MP pool and i believe INT.

    I play lala every once in a while, i think they can be cute but glamour is usually the reason I switch back to Miqo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lily_Skye View Post
    Lalafells are pretty ugly tbh I wish they replaced it with loli'qotes like Khloe Aliapoh and T'kebbe Morh
    Quote Originally Posted by Lily_Skye View Post
    kinda disgusting tbh
    I agree, that is pretty disgusting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    Wait, what? People are kicking players out of duties for playing Lala characters? How frequently is this happening?

    Isn't this a form of harrassment you can report other players for? If someone thinks that's extreme, I personally would side with having Square Enix discouraging toxic behavior through punishments.
    In my 8 years of playing and I play lala on and off. This has never happened to me or anyone I know.
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    Last edited by Sotaris; 10-01-2021 at 10:29 PM.

  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiagenwa View Post
    Off topic a bit but do we ever see a Lalafel kid in game?

    We see other races' kids but I've never seen a Lalafel child.
    There was one in a holiday event. They where the same size as a adult lala.
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