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  1. #51
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    Naoki34's Avatar
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    I see a lot of streamers choosing potatoes as their starting breed when they discover FFXIV, because they like animals and things that are cute.

    Personally, it makes me want to kick it like on WoW with the gnomes. Gnomeball
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    Lalafells are pure evil and are played by literal cultists, my dislike of them doesn't have anything to do with how they look.
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    Last edited by Fourbestintoner; 09-30-2021 at 07:19 PM.

  3. #53
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    They are full of things including potatoes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Lmf9YbRh8
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  4. #54
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    Judy Hopps
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    Clothes looking weird on them is why most friends I have don't play lala or switch off of it after trying. They remind me of "big baby" dolls and I'm not into those either.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by nebby00 View Post
    That would be a bad idea in introducing lolita outfits. People can be straight up degenerate in this game, and you can get some really creepy people that will send sexual tells in game.
    eh? Lolita clothes have nothing to do with Lolita the book or with loli? The maid outfit from the butler/maid set already fits the silhouette and frill quota of a lolita outfit, just lose the apron and it looks like a toned down sweet style dress.
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  6. #56
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    Thracie Treebow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    eh? Lolita clothes have nothing to do with Lolita the book or with loli? The maid outfit from the butler/maid set already fits the silhouette and frill quota of a lolita outfit, just lose the apron and it looks like a toned down sweet style dress.
    Still, even with those people can and already have done some creepy stuff with it. It's not worth including more so than we already have now, even if a very small minority acts weird about it. My comment was mainly for an example that even if it is intended as innocent to fit a style, people will always make it perverse even if the intention is innocent. That was all.

    And it's not as if I don't find the style cute, but everytime there is a race akin to looking child like in an MMO (TERA, Blade&Soul) and there just so happens to include cute outfits with frills or similar to a lolita style, people ruin it. It'll just be inevitable. If people weren't so creepy, maybe we could have nice things.
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    The person who doesn't have a main class or character.

  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by nebby00 View Post
    Still, even with those people can and already have done some creepy stuff with it. It's not worth including more so than we already have now, even if a very small minority acts weird about it. My comment was mainly for an example that even if it is intended as innocent to fit a style, people will always make it perverse even if the intention is innocent. That was all.

    And it's not as if I don't find the style cute, but everytime there is a race akin to looking child like in an MMO (TERA, Blade&Soul) and there just so happens to include cute outfits with frills or similar to a lolita style, people ruin it. It'll just be inevitable. If people weren't so creepy, maybe we could have nice things.
    By that logic we should not have any glamor updates from here till eos because some weirdo will always find a way to be weird lol
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  8. #58
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Tbh to some extent I think this has some to do with gaming or at least overall nerdy things having been more normal amongst women in the East.
    And women do to a much greater extent tend to like cute stuff, in some Eastern games they even say that they very specifically make some of these cutsey races and characters for women.

    I think this extends beyond this too, a lot of the stuff that gets demonized in the West I think gets demonized precisely because of how extremely male dominated nerd culture has been.
    So a lot of people have problems sorta looking at things from a more conventionally feminine perspective and it's demonized and seen as negative, while exaggerated masculinity is glorified.
    I mean even when you look at male protagonists in Japanese games and media it's not uncommon for them to be effeminate by '' our '' standards.
    And intelligence tends to be valued higher than physical strength, being smart isn't seen as some negative thing.

    Then you also add how since it's always looked at from a male lens, the existence of femininity or things that people perceive as '' girly '' gets sexualized by default.
    So when a lot of people see Lalafells they look at it from the lens of '' why would a guy play this? '', and they think that guys can only like big burly guys because that's supposedly the only '' cool '' thing or things that are sexual.
    So...
    It sorta doesn't enter their mind that a guy might like cute stuff too.
    It's the same with emphasized femininity in characters too, it's only seen as sexual and it's really hard for some people to even accept that people can find it cool too and that not everyone just finds big burly men cool.

    I mean look at the movie industry too and you get an idea, it is or at least has mostly been about muscular men shooting guns with explosions going off.
    In Japanese media there is and has been by far more diversity in what a '' male hero '' can be.
    While in NA for a really long time the only thing that makes a man a man was basically Chuck Norris.
    I really would be very hesitant on saying that certain races are going to be popular with specific genders or groups. That may well be the designer's intention, but it can be very difficult to put into practise.

    Personally I fully support player's being able to choose whichever race they want, I find it incredible that anyone would harass someone choosing to play a lala- by that I mean spamming emotes, following them, kicking them, etc.

    That being said, I absolutely detest the design of lalas, I find them saccharine -sweet to the point of ugliness with their waddling, and I find that glamour looks horrible on them.

    However, all that being said, I still get a good laugh if I find myself ever following a teeny brave lala tank, so thank you !!
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  9. #59
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    Paladin Lv 72
    Is there an actual breakdown of races and classes anywhere? Or is this just going by anecdotal evidence?
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  10. #60
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    Lucky Tails
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    I think it's funny how I've met some people who are more comfortable believing Lalafells are grown from the ground like potatoes, because it'd be weird if they engaged in any kind of ritual that might invoke the natural birthing process. Well, have I got news for those people: yeah, it's gonna happen, because there are males and there are females.

    Japan is more partial to the small and cutesy things than NA, and I think that is the main reason why there are fewer Lalafell players here. But anyone who believes they're honest-to-god children is fooling themselves, IMO.
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