Lalafell as a percentage of NA population

[LittleImp]

Number of reported sexual assault incidents per 100,000 citizens:

United States: 27.30
Germany: 9.40
Japan: 1.00

Those are rape statistics from 2010 that you've misleadingly relabeled as sexual assault incidents. Here are a few important things to consider.


1. Japan has a widely acknowledged problem with the reporting of sex crimes. The Japanese government has estimated only ~2.8%-4.1% of assaults are reported, likely leaning towards the lower end.

2. Japan is famous for its '99% conviction rate' but the reality is this conviction rate is maintained by only allowed air-tight cases to actually proceed. The vast majority of sexual assault / rape cases are not considered airtight due to their fundamental nature; Additionally, the rate of acquittal or otherwise light punishments for sex crimes is high due to the nature of Japanese law.

3. Japanese rape law was amended in 2017, over 100 years after it was originally written back in 1908, and seven years after the statistics you cited. Despite the amendment, the definition of rape still remains incredibly narrow with many activities that constitute rape in western countries being instead labeled as "crimes of forcible indecency", and bearing a significantly smaller penalty. Additionally, the victim is expected to prove that that they were conscious and provided 'adequate resistance', otherwise they're introduced to the wonderful Japanese legal concept of 'quasi-rape'. Yes, in Japan if you are assaulted while passed out drunk, asleep or drugged, it's legally defined as 'quasi-rape.'


Cool country.

[Melorie]

What can I say... Good taste isn't for everyone (just kidding).
But I love how they look different from other races (imo aside from elezen, male au'ra and roes/roes but cats, other races are too similar and bland), and I find their emotes/glamours really fun. Also, if you want to play a female character specially, it gets really tiring to be into a sea of miqo'tes and au'ras, FFXIV doesn't really offer that much options for customization and it's quite easy to feel like your character is similar to everyone else (oh hey, i'm the 20544257345th au'ra with white hair and 2b glam!!).

I don't really see them as children, more like goblins or hobbits - simply small creatures, if you read a great deal of fantasy it's not hard to imagine them as people but small, the fact that many people simply think "children!!" shows such a lack of imagination. And I'm quite happy that they're potato-shaped and not "uwu children" like K'hloe, makes them stand out more from your usual "small race" in other asian mmos. Also their walking animation on cutscenes is so good lmao.

[Mimilu]

I'm a Fantasia-addict.
While Lalas are my favorite race to play, sometimes its nice to be taller and have a body shape and legs.

[Dreamsoap]

From a female western perspective: I prefer to play something that can be both cute and cool. For me, Miqote F and Highlander F fits that niche. I find that Au Ra (F) and Lalafel are far too cutesy and submissive (Au Ra) which is pretty off putting.

[lalin]

the same thing is on eu servers not just na , there is also some (peer pressure) not sure if it's the right word but on eu/na servers lalafells are not very liked and some people will not play them just for this reason , when you get kicked out of duties or treated badly just for a race you like in a game you will switch to another race to have a more pleasant gaming experience ....

[Gyson]

..on eu/na servers lalafells are not very liked and some people will not play them just for this reason , when you get kicked out of duties or treated badly just for a race you like in a game..

Wait, what? People are kicking players out of duties for playing Lala characters? How frequently is this happening?

Isn't this a form of harrassment you can report other players for? If someone thinks that's extreme, I personally would side with having Square Enix discouraging toxic behavior through punishments.

[MrSmiley]

the same thing is on eu servers not just na , there is also some (peer pressure) not sure if it's the right word but on eu/na servers lalafells are not very liked and some people will not play them just for this reason , when you get kicked out of duties or treated badly just for a race you like in a game you will switch to another race to have a more pleasant gaming experience ....

I have played since 1.0 and spent a lot of time as a lala (I tend to swap between au ra hyur and lala at random), I have seen this exactly never. I have seen plenty of jokes but I have never ever seen anything remotely close to this. the "lalafell = pedo" mindset seems to almost entirely exist just on these forums, its not even on the reddit. It helps that lalafell don't actually look like proper "children" despite what people ssay.

[Kolsykol]

Tbh to some extent I think this has some to do with gaming or at least overall nerdy things having been more normal amongst women in the East.
And women do to a much greater extent tend to like cute stuff, in some Eastern games they even say that they very specifically make some of these cutsey races and characters for women.

I think this extends beyond this too, a lot of the stuff that gets demonized in the West I think gets demonized precisely because of how extremely male dominated nerd culture has been.
So a lot of people have problems sorta looking at things from a more conventionally feminine perspective and it's demonized and seen as negative, while exaggerated masculinity is glorified.
I mean even when you look at male protagonists in Japanese games and media it's not uncommon for them to be effeminate by '' our '' standards.
And intelligence tends to be valued higher than physical strength, being smart isn't seen as some negative thing.

Then you also add how since it's always looked at from a male lens, the existence of femininity or things that people perceive as '' girly '' gets sexualized by default.
So when a lot of people see Lalafells they look at it from the lens of '' why would a guy play this? '', and they think that guys can only like big burly guys because that's supposedly the only '' cool '' thing or things that are sexual.
So...
It sorta doesn't enter their mind that a guy might like cute stuff too.
It's the same with emphasized femininity in characters too, it's only seen as sexual and it's really hard for some people to even accept that people can find it cool too and that not everyone just finds big burly men cool.

I mean look at the movie industry too and you get an idea, it is or at least has mostly been about muscular men shooting guns with explosions going off.
In Japanese media there is and has been by far more diversity in what a '' male hero '' can be.
While in NA for a really long time the only thing that makes a man a man was basically Chuck Norris.

[lalin]

I have played since 1.0 and spent a lot of time as a lala (I tend to swap between au ra hyur and lala at random), I have seen this exactly never. I have seen plenty of jokes but I have never ever seen anything remotely close to this. the "lalafell = pedo" mindset seems to almost entirely exist just on these forums, its not even on the reddit. It helps that lalafell don't actually look like proper "children" despite what people ssay.

it's true they don't look like children to me they look more like puppies , and yes that doesn't happen very often it doesn't mean it never happens ..
i heared lots of lala players being kicked out of parties/fc for switching to this race not to mention the harassment some get .
as for me i was new to the game , maybe i am being overly dramatic and i should (get over it) but it still was a painful experience .and i didn't even know it was a reportable offence , i didn't even know that black lists existed .

[Chawan]

That would be a bad idea in introducing lolita outfits. People can be straight up degenerate in this game, and you can get some really creepy people that will send sexual tells in game. People have already put examples of such earlier in the thread of their negative experiences and I've seen where certain outfits made be to cute for a certain race turn into a dumpster fire. This being Elin from Tera who look like children with animal ears and tails. The community turned into a cesspool the more outfits were added to Elin and it got on the borderline of pedophile behavior.

Cute things aren't inherently bad, but people can just as quickly ruin those cute things. It's why in the West, most people find lalafell strange and cringey. I personally don't care; mostly feel that lalafell are okay until the line is crossed by involving them in any sort of ERP; then that is where it becomes disturbing.

Well I am not the kind of person to not do something because someone else is weird about it. People are weird about feet and that doesn't stop me from wearing my sandals outside everywhere.. And as far as i know parents are still allowing their children to be seen outdoors in summer clothing and bathing suits.. You cant really do anything about a thought in someone's mind. and I think making people tip toe around them types in a make believe setting is silly.. If someone just happens to find cutesy things sexual that shouldn't be me that gets punished for it.. shouldn't be my problem.

When i say lolita what i mean is gothic lolita. I know a lot of people seem to lump gothic lolita styles in with some aweful book someone wrote like a long time ago. I hardly see floofy frilly dresses that typically cover almost everything up being sexualized.. Again though I am not deranged in that manner so maybe i just don't understand. I simply like the aesthetic of my character looking like a frilly doll parasol and all. I think it would be cute.

People should not be repressed in any sort of way because of a few anecdotal cases.. imo. Fantasy is simply fantasy we should not be taking it so seriously... that is just how i see it.