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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Man's going through an extremely tough time with an infirm mother, and brrrrr goes the troll machine anyway.

    Eh, why am I trying, there are going to be people aplenty bemoaning his acceptance because he isn't a "true fan" or some such.
    Either way the poor dude cant get a break. Mans had extreme health scares with his mother, is dealing with described depression and social anxieties with a side of what sounds like mild agoraphobia, and still people troll around using him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Either way the poor dude cant get a break. Mans had extreme health scares with his mother, is dealing with described depression and social anxieties with a side of what sounds like mild agoraphobia, and still people troll around using him.
    My mom passed away years ago, I also battle depression and anxiety, as well as OCD, agoraphobia and claustrophobia (a bitchin' combo, I assure you) and I still cannot stand to look at the stupid thumbnails he uses on his videos.

    (Ridiculous 'eye-popping' unshaven face over random video game background. "Asmongold saw a pixel then THIS happened..." /Retch)

    My point is that this is not the Bizzaro universe; celebrities on Earth can and will have their personal lives picked apart by the public, and will continue to be harassed and trolled regardless of said personal life issues. It shouldn't be any surprise that the health of his parents, or his mental health, have no bearing at all on how others treat him.

    I mean, at least here in the US, we're still absolute jerks to mentally ill people. We still believe the "if I can do it, they can do it," nonsense. We look at them with disgust on our faces. Homelessness wouldn't even exist if we had compassion and understanding for those that cannot do what most of us can do (namely, work and carry responsibility).

    I digress!

    Zack is a celebrity. As such he's gonna have to deal with the limelight.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 09-30-2021 at 06:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    and I still cannot stand to look at the stupid thumbnails he uses on his videos.
    The problem in this case is the YT algorithm. It vastly prefers thumbnails with faces which show strong emotions. That's the reason why the thumbnails of almost all videos are so ridiculous.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    The problem in this case is the YT algorithm. It vastly prefers thumbnails with faces which show strong emotions. That's the reason why the thumbnails of almost all videos are so ridiculous.

    Cheers
    Yes, fine. That doesn't have any bearing on the fact that he does this in nearly all of his thumbs. And his thumbs aren't screenies of a stream. They're produced thumbs. He literally takes a shot of himself making that silly "eye-popping" look, pastes it over a screenshot from the game, and adds titles.

    Algorithm wouldn't push that image of him if he didn't put that image out there to begin with. Algorithm can't promote what's not there.

    I could get onboard with your angle if the algorithm was just grabbing frames out of his videos, but it's not.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 09-30-2021 at 10:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    Yes, fine. That doesn't have any bearing on the fact that he does this in nearly all of his thumbs. And his thumbs aren't screenies of a stream. They're produced thumbs. He literally takes a shot of himself making that silly "eye-popping" look, pastes it over a screenshot from the game, and adds titles.

    Algorithm wouldn't push that image of him if he didn't put that image out there to begin with. Algorithm can't promote what's not there.

    I could get onboard with your angle if the algorithm was just grabbing frames out of his videos, but it's not.
    He doesn’t edit videos. He pays an editor doing all these. What we see is just someone doing his job to generate as much income as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    The problem in this case is the YT algorithm. It vastly prefers thumbnails with faces which show strong emotions. That's the reason why the thumbnails of almost all videos are so ridiculous.

    Cheers
    There are plenty of creators living off their YouTube content and Patreon exclusively that don't resort to this at all. Good content + good production quality + genuine passion for their content being very noticeable in the videos = people will see it.
    Some are just more sold out and desperately clickbaity than others, nothing more. Its the difference between "I love making my content" and "eh it pays the bills and I hate normal jobs"
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    Last edited by ReynTime; 09-30-2021 at 02:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    My mom passed away years ago, I also battle depression and anxiety, as well as OCD, agoraphobia and claustrophobia (a bitchin' combo, I assure you) and I still cannot stand to look at the stupid thumbnails he uses on his videos.

    (Ridiculous 'eye-popping' unshaven face over random video game background. "Asmongold saw a pixel then THIS happened..." /Retch)

    My point is that this is not the Bizzaro universe; celebrities on Earth can and will have their personal lives picked apart by the public, and will continue to be harassed and trolled regardless of said personal life issues. It shouldn't be any surprise that the health of his parents, or his mental health, have no bearing at all on how others treat him.

    I mean, at least here in the US, we're still absolute jerks to mentally ill people. We still believe the "if I can do it, they can do it," nonsense. We look at them with disgust on our faces. Homelessness wouldn't even exist if we had compassion and understanding for those that cannot do what most of us can do (namely, work and carry responsibility).

    I digress!

    Zack is a celebrity. As such he's gonna have to deal with the limelight.
    Wasn't the point of what I said but go off, I guess? Your hearts in the right place but you really missed the point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    My mom passed away years ago, I also battle depression and anxiety, as well as OCD, agoraphobia and claustrophobia (a b****in' combo, I assure you) and I still cannot stand to look at the stupid thumbnails he uses on his videos.

    (Ridiculous 'eye-popping' unshaven face over random video game background. "Asmongold saw a pixel then THIS happened..." /Retch)

    My point is that this is not the Bizzaro universe; celebrities on Earth can and will have their personal lives picked apart by the public, and will continue to be harassed and trolled regardless of said personal life issues. It shouldn't be any surprise that the health of his parents, or his mental health, have no bearing at all on how others treat him.

    I mean, at least here in the US, we're still absolute jerks to mentally ill people. We still believe the "if I can do it, they can do it," nonsense. We look at them with disgust on our faces. Homelessness wouldn't even exist if we had compassion and understanding for those that cannot do what most of us can do (namely, work and carry responsibility).

    I digress!

    Zack is a celebrity. As such he's gonna have to deal with the limelight.

    So..... because some people are mean to mentally ill people in the US, that means we should be mean to a streamer when he is going through a rough time? No thanks! Let's just try and be decent human beings.
    Being open and honest as a public figure is an important and brave thing to do. If he's not acting himself on stream, people are going to wonder why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Either way the poor dude cant get a break. Mans had extreme health scares with his mother, is dealing with described depression and social anxieties with a side of what sounds like mild agoraphobia, and still people troll around using him.
    This. How can these people sleep at night.
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