It's time to kill the argument that DPS abilities keep healers from healing.

[lulunami]

SCH in 2.0 ARR had significantly more DPS spells/abilities than it currently has in Shadowbringers.

SCH at start of 2.0 ARR
- Ruin, Ruin II for nukes.
- Energy Drain for MP and nuke.
- Bio, Bio II, Miasma, Miasma II, Aero, and Thunder for DoTs.
- Bane and Blizzard II for AoE.
- 100 percent uptime for Shadowflare.
- Strong Fairy potency.

SCH at start of 5.0 Shadowbringers
- Broil, Biolysis, Art of War
- No Energy Drain
- Nerfed Fairy potency.

There is a reason why healers say SCH has been completely gutted and shell of itself. The dev team are extremely incompetent.

[Kolsykol]

SCH at start of 5.0 Shadowbringers

- No Energy Drain

Not gonna lie I totally forgot about this.
Energy Drain is such a forgettable ability imo it really needs an updated animation or something it barely has any impact.

[Videra]

SCH in 2.0 ARR had significantly more DPS spells/abilities than it currently has in Shadowbringers.

SCH at start of 2.0 ARR
- Ruin, Ruin II for nukes.
- Energy Drain for MP and nuke.
- Bio, Bio II, Miasma, Miasma II, Aero, and Thunder for DoTs.
- Bane and Blizzard II for AoE.
- 100 percent uptime for Shadowflare.
- Strong Fairy potency.

SCH at start of 5.0 Shadowbringers
- Broil, Biolysis, Art of War
- No Energy Drain
- Nerfed Fairy potency.

There is a reason why healers say SCH has been completely gutted and shell of itself. The dev team are extremely incompetent.

>100% uptime Shadowflare re-enters my memory

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

[MellowMink]

SCH in 2.0 ARR had significantly more DPS spells/abilities than it currently has in Shadowbringers.

SCH at start of 2.0 ARR
- Ruin, Ruin II for nukes.
- Energy Drain for MP and nuke.
- Bio, Bio II, Miasma, Miasma II, Aero, and Thunder for DoTs.
- Bane and Blizzard II for AoE.
- 100 percent uptime for Shadowflare.
- Strong Fairy potency.

SCH at start of 5.0 Shadowbringers
- Broil, Biolysis, Art of War
- No Energy Drain
- Nerfed Fairy potency.

There is a reason why healers say SCH has been completely gutted and shell of itself. The dev team are extremely incompetent.

It's pretty unfortunate how much this list lowered between expansions, especially with the fairies no longer being unique.

I didn't actually know that there used to be a freaking Blizzard II option for Scholar though; that's pretty wacky. Art of War is definitely more unique now in terms of job identity for that one particular type of attack, but it was pretty amusing to see that the class had some spells in common with Black Mage of all things.

[inhaledcorn]

It's pretty unfortunate how much this list lowered between expansions, especially with the fairies no longer being unique.

I didn't actually know that there used to be a freaking Blizzard II option for Scholar though; that's pretty wacky. Art of War is definitely more unique now in terms of job identity for that one particular type of attack, but it was pretty amusing to see that the class had some spells in common with Black Mage of all things.

Blizzard II used to be part of the Cross Class system since SCH took actions from Tham and Conjurer.

And, Art of War really isn't that unique. It's just recolored Aura Blast from PvP. StB SCH was allowed to have Miasma II because the Cross Role system broke SCH in a bad way when it came to AoE filler. But, when we started using it as a DPS gain to weave, oooooh no, SE couldn't have that.

Art of War is 200% a downgrade from the things we've had in the past.

[Shurrikhan]

Art of War is 200% a downgrade from the things we've had in the past.

New player: Oh, it's not a DoT anymore! We can spam our AoE! Hurray!
Actual SCHs: ...So, we just lost our weave space, downtime in which to ready Bane (for which reason we also lost Bane... and most of our DoTs), and a more powerful ppgcd AoE, all so we can now be obliged to slap the floor repeatedly, with no contested priorities for focus damage or healing pace? ...Hurray?

[inhaledcorn]

New player: Oh, it's not a DoT anymore! We can spam our AoE! Hurray!
Actual SCHs: ...So, we just lost our weave space, downtime in which to ready Bane (for which reason we also lost Bane... and most of our DoTs), and a more powerful ppgcd AoE, all so we can now be obliged to slap the floor repeatedly, with no contested priorities for focus damage or healing pace? ...Hurray?

Every time I smash AoW, I feel like I'm playing in a puddle.

T-T

[Shurrikhan]

Every time I smash AoW, I feel like I'm playing in a puddle.

T-T

Did slapping it at least teach you anything about martial arts?

[inhaledcorn]

Did slapping it at least teach you anything about martial arts?

It only taught me I feel as lame as everyone thinks I look in my AF gear. . -.

Can I have Xande's version, please? It actually feels powerful.

[MsTanya]

Did slapping it at least teach you anything about martial arts?

I think SE introduced it as a kind of inside joke to tell scholars to pound sand anytime they ask for qol or buffs. Or so that's how I've been seeing it xD.