Last thing the world needs is to increase a player's financial burden in a videogame.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I’m not specifically replying to you, but you were the last to say this. The intended purpose is not a gil sink.

Oh is it not? My memory for the live letter specifics itself is pretty fuzzy, I was mentally tapping out right around when they got to healer changes (it was super late at night for me) - so the rest is a bit of a blend. Thought I'd heard them say it's intended as a gil sink, but might have just been some posts about it here and on reddit blurring into whatever they'd said about it on stream.

In that case, yeah - I don't really have an opinion on it. It isn't going to make or break the bank for most people, especially if they keep RR buffs going constantly.

[Mezzoforte]

It's uncanny how "real" this all feels lmao... So much for escapism

Yeah, though the problem with having to introduce reality is there are real problems that need solved. Such as housing. Inflation. Etc. When you stop trying to solve core issues like that games tend to implode. Inflation can slowly strangle a game by essentially bringing the number of new players incoming to zero over time. Escapism could be the main focus if they got rid of Gil and housing was turned into similar to apartments and then let everyone have one. Until they fix the issue of scarcity real life will always drag itself and all its problems into the limelight

[kaynide]

Oh is it not? My memory for the live letter specifics itself is pretty fuzzy, I was mentally tapping out right around when they got to healer changes (it was super late at night for me) - so the rest is a bit of a blend. Thought I'd heard them say it's intended as a gil sink, but might have just been some posts about it here and on reddit blurring into whatever they'd said about it on stream.

In that case, yeah - I don't really have an opinion on it. It isn't going to make or break the bank for most people, especially if they keep RR buffs going constantly.

As I understood it, it was more like "It just doesn't make sense that a teleport from Limsa to Kugane will cost the same as a teleport to the moon. Also, wtf with Rhalgr's Reach; it's right next to Gridania practically yet it costs as much as going across the continent to Limsa or Ul'dah."

[Herebedragons]

As I understood it, it was more like "It just doesn't make sense that a teleport from Limsa to Kugane will cost the same as a teleport to the moon. Also, wtf with Rhalgr's Reach; it's right next to Gridania practically yet it costs as much as going across the continent to Limsa or Ul'dah."

I'd say they make us pay extra for the secrecy, but well you know...

Maybe whoever we're giving the gil to donates back to the resistance? Who are we even giving the gil to?

[Anirab]

1500 Gil for a teleport? Oh noes....
Ok, my retainers bring me every day stuff (these tokens you can exchange for money) for at least 30k Gil.
I could bake cookies for ~100k GIL a day.
I could farm treasure maps.
I could exchange gear from dungeons for GC seals and buy repair materials for it.
I could use hunt seals for aetheryte tickets.
I could send my squadron to collect aetheryte priority passes which give 40% reduction for 2 hours.
I could just play the game.

But yeah, 1500 Gil for teleport. I will definitely notice that. Never...

And then i could check the housing discord and wonder where people got 500 Million GIL to buy houses / FCs because this is the real rare stuff.

I could buy a medium or big house now (if it would be at the lower end) but basically there's nothing for sale.

FFXIV lacks any money sink. There is none. Money just accumulates and accumulates and every week i make half a million without doing anything extraordinary. And i'm only playing currently 1-2 hours a day. I'm not even explicitely farming Gil. It's just playing the game which gives me 50k each day. Plus some weekly stuff.

[Illmaeran]

Hello OP,

I remember being concerned over dipping VERY low in Gil a couple of times back when I started ARR, so I understand the essence of your point. That was seven years ago though and a lot's changed. Gil is easier to come by now by just simply playing the game than it was then. Even though I was worried that I wouldn't have the Gil to upgrade gear at the next leveling tier, I never completely ran out and never got to the point where I couldn't continue playing. It did make me more aware of travel costs so I spent the extra time running back and forth rather than teleporting back to town after completing each quest, which saved some money.

I get that you don't want to have to think about these things while participating in an activity meant to take you out of the real world and forget real world concerns. The best advice/response I can give is to just play the game and not worry about logistics. Chances are exceedingly slim that you'll actually get to the point where you're so low on Gil that you can't continue going through the MSQ.

Easy Gil making tips:
1. Sell everything you don't actually use. Every drop in the game is useful for something, there aren't "trash drops" like in other games. Every time you go back to a place with a Summoning Bell, check to see if anything you have in your inventory is selling for 3x or more of the amount you get for just vendoring it. If so, put it on the MB. If you're going to be in that zone for a while, it can sometimes be worth waiting until you're about to go to the next zone before doing this so you can put a single larger stack rather than multiple smaller stacks up for sale.

2. Turn everything you can in to your Grand Company to get seals to buy Ventures with. Use these to keep your retainers going out on ventures. Sell everything you get from them.

3. If you're limited on time to play, pick a single daily task to do, such as doing the Leveling Roulette every day. That alone will cover most daily costs and will add up over time.

4. Most importantly: FORGET YOU HAVE GIL. Just play the game and enjoy it. You'll always have enough Gil to play the game and it will accumulate over time.

[Darksummoner]

I think they do the teleport cost increase for a few reasons:
-Gil sink. Though I think it is better for them just introduce more gilded mount that costs 10m gil+
-Make BLU's contents relevant. Aetheryte tickets that give free teleport are traded with Allied Seals, which BLU gets a lot doing weekly.
-Make Squadron a bit more relevant with their teleport discount buff. Same with FC buff with the same effect.

-Make more people use 2-step verification for that free destination, thus improve players' security. Less players get hacked -> less headache for support team.

What is BLU content?? Never heard of this.

[Iscah]

Also, wtf with Rhalgr's Reach; it's right next to Gridania practically yet it costs as much as going across the continent to Limsa or Ul'dah.

Did they say that in the presentation or are you asking that yourself?

I mapped out the teleport network a while back, based on the prices:



I'm not convinced that it's true-to-geography accurate, more like the zones loosely arranged on a map, but the gap between Hawthorne and Castrum Oriens seems plausible when you consider that Baelsar's Wall takes up a wide swathe of land and is basically another zone between the two. And then most of the Fringes between the castrum and the Reach.

[Kes13a]

if you are going by distance.. I saw somewhere that the actual teleport cost to the moon should be 84,000 gil

they didnt do that, so, I guess we are lucky they didnt, could you imagine the whining then?

ENDWALKERS DISCRIMINATES AGAINST LOW LEVEL PLAYERS!!!!

[hydralus]

They would be better off just taxing people with houses since the majority of people who own a house or multiple houses are the ones forcing their hand with inflation. There are so few houses and people have such a rare chance to even get one that taxing them pretty harshly would be fair.

That in itself would likely fix the issue of inflation since its only a small percent that are hording so much gil. I being one of those people and every friend I have is the same. We are all omnicrafters, we have a lot of realestate and gil capped. I doubt a hundred thousand sprouts would ever be able to reach that level together.

This is probably gonna be seen as a hot take by people who are hording gil and housing plots like myself :P

As a house owner I agree 100% with this. FFXIV is so far the only MMORPG I've played where there is no tax system on LIMITED player housing. Asheron's Call and Archeage both required a monthly/2-week payment on rent that cost a portion of the price of the land itself. Fantastic gil sink, and I'd personally make it additive per-account. First house would be 5% of the purchase price a month in rent, second would be 25%, all the way up to 100% with a third and beyond. See how many people want to hoard houses when it costs them 20 million gil a month to keep.

Even make it so you could pay your rent 3 months ahead so people can take a break between patches and still have a house, if they can afford it. (Apartments, of course, would be kept as-is.)