Last thing the world needs is to increase a player's financial burden in a videogame.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I think I'm less concerned over the price changes than I am the principle of it.

It doesn't feel like some minor price increases to teleportation costs is really going to be that much of a gil sink enough to warrant the change; wouldn't it be better to focus on adding more items (at less egregious prices than the gold mounts) to the gil shop? Or axing some of the myriad ways we have to make gil right now? Adding price change fees to the marketboard, or increasing the tax?

It won't be as big a deal as it's being made out to be, and less so for me and mine - I'm notorious for penny pinching and keeping the RR buff active at all times. But it just doesn't seem like the best way they could choose to combat inflation and take gil out of the market, compared to a myriad of other options.

[ReynTime]

1.0 was a very different era of MMO history, todays players would have a tantrum so big it would cause another calamity if they introduced a stamina system to limit teleports. Even FFXI has moved on from that kind of time wasting and makes travel as easy as possible now.

It's easy to look back with rose tinted glasses and remember all those moments of open jawed wonder as we travelled through dangerous open worlds on some epic adventure, and also easy to forget all the times we spent 45 minutes running to camp only for the party to disband after 15 minutes, or get aggro within sight of our destination and have to run all the way back again.

Spare me the "rose tinted glasses" cliche defense. I don't claim people who like some aspects of old inconveniences of MMOs are a majority, but there definitely is a niche that likes them. I can't go in detail about how I know this due the legally gray area it involves, but it exists. I don't "misremember" 1.0 or other classic experiences. I legit miss some aspects of them and actually LIKE things requiring more time to be done.

[kaynide]

I think I'm less concerned over the price changes than I am the principle of it.

It doesn't feel like some minor price increases to teleportation costs is really going to be that much of a gil sink enough to warrant the change.

I’m not specifically replying to you, but you were the last to say this. The intended purpose is not a gil sink.

It’s been said, I thought pretty clearly, that this isn’t a straight up increase in costs that people are getting mad over.

It’s just a recalculation of prices. There might be some increase (and indeed I would expect far places to cost more like Limsa to Kugane via teleport). There also might be significant savings if you’re just derping around Thanalan only.

I’ve replied several times about how to be more thrifty, but man people are getting mad without actually reading what’s being changed.

You will notice from Costa del Sol to Crystarium would normally be 999 gil now is half that.

From Costa del Sol, you could also easily hit the boat to Limsa and another boat to Kugane up for less than the amount listed above. If you are in that much of a hurry that you can’t do that, the price is fair.

[Artemiz]

Spare me the "rose tinted glasses" cliche defense. I don't claim people who like some aspects of old inconveniences of MMOs are a majority, but there definitely is a niche that likes them. I can't go in detail about how I know this due the legally gray area it involves, but it exists. I don't "misremember" 1.0 or other classic experiences. I legit miss some aspects of them and actually LIKE things requiring more time to be done.

Spare me the lecture and go and play an old MMO then, there are plenty still active.

[kiagenwa]

You will notice from Costa del Sol to Crystarium would normally be 999 gil now is half that.

From Costa del Sol, you could also easily hit the boat to Limsa and another boat to Kugane up for less than the amount listed above. If you are in that much of a hurry that you can’t do that, the price is fair.

Some people simply don't like any challenges in games (according to some replies in this thread).
All games are made for players to overcome challenges and be happy with their achievement, among other things.

When I want no challenges, just some personal fantasy, I go play an offline game and cheat the heck our of it. No efforts required.

[Sotaris]

I haven't seen a fourth but I did post the third (with an apology). This was one of the two posts that prompted me to make mine, specifically because both start with hyperbole about how terrible it will be for players – regressive tax! financial burden! – and zero information about the changes, which aren't nearly as bad as people are claiming. And I tried to post clarifying information within those threads but people seem to just come in, read the OP and comment on that.

And it should've stopped after your thread which I feel was the definite one with clearifying misinformation/misunderstanding by many.

As someone who completed ARR and HW during the Free Trial and as a result has had barely any money ever since, I can't say this was my favourite of the changes they've announced... Hell, even my alt I don't think I ever broke 3 million gil and I've already reached the start of Shadowbringers. I don't understand how (some) people have hundreds of millions quite frankly

Playing the game. Don't spend the gil (there is little you'd need to spend it on to begin with). Craft and gather. Sell mounts from old content. etc etc

Spare me the lecture and go and play an old MMO then, there are plenty still active.

*nom nom*

popcorn anyone?

[Iscah]

And it should've stopped after your thread which I feel was the definite one with clearifying misinformation/misunderstanding by many.

Thanks. I don't think I've seen new threads posted since, though; this was already active and people just keep posting in it and buoying it up.


The other thread, if anyone missed it:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ecord-straight

[Mezzoforte]

They would be better off just taxing people with houses since the majority of people who own a house or multiple houses are the ones forcing their hand with inflation. There are so few houses and people have such a rare chance to even get one that taxing them pretty harshly would be fair.

That in itself would likely fix the issue of inflation since its only a small percent that are hording so much gil. I being one of those people and every friend I have is the same. We are all omnicrafters, we have a lot of realestate and gil capped. I doubt a hundred thousand sprouts would ever be able to reach that level together.

This is probably gonna be seen as a hot take by people who are hording gil and housing plots like myself :P

[Tsiron]

They would be better off just taxing people with houses since the majority of people who own a house or multiple houses are the ones forcing their hand with inflation. There are so few houses and people have such a rare chance to even get one that taxing them pretty harshly would be fair.

That in itself would likely fix the issue of inflation since its only a small percent that are hording so much gil. I being one of those people and every friend I have is the same. We are all omnicrafters, we have a lot of realestate and gil capped. I doubt a hundred thousand sprouts would ever be able to reach that level together.

This is probably gonna be seen as a hot take by people who are hording gil and housing plots like myself :P

It's uncanny how "real" this all feels lmao... So much for escapism

[Shironeko_Narunyan]

it just doesn't seem like the best way they could choose to combat inflation and take gil out of the market, compared to a myriad of other options.

Seriously, take it from the rich. Tax balance over X gil, introducing a soft cap, problem solved.
The problem is not players teleporting around, it's people with more money than Jeff Bezos.