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    Quote Originally Posted by Herebedragons View Post
    You'll excuse me if I don't believe you. Because you quoted me, plucked one of my post out of a conversation I had been having with other posters for a while, took it out of context and told me to rein in my ego and grow up.

    When my story was about a silent DPS on a power trip griefing me.

    Can we stop now? I already said I was done here, and there are other threads for that discussion.
    Yours happened to be the latest post and I didn't feel like digging around to quote everything beforehand when it was super early in the morning. Believe what you want tbh, I genuinely can't even be assed to care.

    Though point still stands, if you pop sprint and position against a wall, a dps should rarely be ahead of you. Doesn't mean the RDM wasn't an idiot for not bringing mobs back with them rather than running off, but yeah.

    Also things will be "done" the moment you stop bothering to respond. But you feel a need to keep responding to people saying they didn't read or trying to defend yourself, which is perpetuating the conversation. And in the above case... Rinhi didn't even quote you or was speaking about you. So...
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    Last edited by Kaoru_Nagisa; 09-21-2021 at 08:40 PM.
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  2. #32322
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Also things will be "done" the moment you stop bothering to respond. But you feel a need to keep responding to people saying they didn't read or trying to defend yourself, which is perpetuating the conversation. And in the above case... Rinhi didn't even quote you or was speaking about you. So...
    You don't care, yet you quoted me. Funny that.

    SavageCipher was talking about my original post. This whole thing has been going off of my original post. I would rather just let it rest, but I will respond as long as I deem it necessary.
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  3. #32323
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herebedragons View Post
    You don't care, yet you quoted me. Funny that.

    SavageCipher was talking about my original post. This whole thing has been going off of my original post. I would rather just let it rest, but I will respond as long as I deem it necessary.
    I mean, that's how conversations on the forum happen. You quote me, if I feel like responding I will, if not, I won't. Not sure if you're aware people can carry on a conversation without actual emotions behind it. This is basically the equivalent of me reading the newspaper in the morning. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    And so we come to the hypocrisy: you want it to rest, and the best way to do that is stop quoting people complaining they didn't read or what have you. But instead, you're continuing to respond, which can prompt others to respond in kind. So you're kinda just perpetuating the issue you claim you want to let rest, my dude. But at this point most posts are in response to SavageCipher's incredibly warped and out-of-touch take on the tank role, not to you and your original post.

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    I have been busy leveling through the expansions on an alt lately, so my time in DF has been pretty nonexistent other than some Nier runs here and there. But yesterday I did a few roulettes for some poetics on said alt, landed into Syrcus since that's.... uh. The only raid she has unlocked. <<; (I've been speeding through expacs trying to get her ready for EW, haven't grabbed much outside MSQ stuff as a result lol)

    To say the bosses were Beyblades would be an understatement. I'm pretty sure all three tanks were having a provoke war wank-off the entire time, and on Amon that resulted a few times in people getting burned by that frontal cleave he does. Add in people not killing the slimes on that boss, and... well. Thankfully my group survived because of AST shields (rip Noct sect in a couple months), but that's a nightmare I'll not soon want repeats of.

    Still not as bad as the WoD I got once, where my party's tank refused to give up MT despite the fact they were consistently getting people killed and wiggling bosses around. They were also made of wet tissue paper, apparently - my coheal ended up having to drop dpsing altogether just to keep them up. I didn't think to check their gear, but if they were taking that much damage so quickly, I can only assume it was bad. Thankfully at one point when they died to Doom on Angry Mango for like the third time, my coheal stopped trying to res them and a more competent tank took over...

    Only for the whole process to repeat again on every boss after. They even tried to tank Cerberus despite us being the belly team. :|
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    Last edited by Kaoru_Nagisa; 09-21-2021 at 09:20 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
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    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

  4. #32324
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    I mean, that's how conversations on the forum happen. You quote me, if I feel like responding I will, if not, I won't. Not sure if you're aware people can carry on a conversation without actual emotions behind it. This is basically the equivalent of me reading the newspaper in the morning. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    And so we come to the hypocrisy: you want it to rest, and the best way to do that is stop quoting people complaining they didn't read or what have you. But instead, you're continuing to respond, which can prompt others to respond in kind. So you're kinda just perpetuating the issue you claim you want to let rest, my dude. But at this point most posts are in response to SavageCipher's incredibly warped and out-of-touch take on the tank role, not to you and your original post.
    Indeed it is! Which is exactly why I respond to you when you instigate me, "my dude"

    Doesn't mean that my wish to see everyone move on makes me a hypocrite. Others have already said that this topic irritates them, not to mention that this thread isn't about tank etiquette.

    Still, as long as I have something to say I will say it. If it's not to your liking then you're free to stop responding too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herebedragons View Post
    You don't care, yet you quoted me. Funny that.

    SavageCipher was talking about my original post. This whole thing has been going off of my original post. I would rather just let it rest, but I will respond as long as I deem it necessary.
    I hope you don’t feel responsible for creating the discussion. You’re not, you vented and what you described simply is annoying. I think everyone agreed on that at least
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herebedragons View Post
    Indeed it is! Which is exactly why I respond to you when you instigate me, "my dude"

    Doesn't mean that my wish to see everyone move on makes me a hypocrite. Others have already said that this topic irritates them, not to mention that this thread isn't about tank etiquette.

    Still, as long as I have something to say I will say it. If it's not to your liking then you're free to stop responding too.
    Hey, I'm only here until my work shift starts, and then you're free to either yell into the abyss or drop your own topic like you keep claiming you want! You keep quoting me, so while I'm around I humor it; if you think that's "instigating", that's on you. Don't like it, don't continue the convo! Pretty simple, I'd think.

    But yes, it isn't the thread topic - which is why I edited with a couple quick stories I had from what little DFing I've done lately. But here you are, dragging it off topic again because you just have to get the last word in, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Quote Originally Posted by Nishira View Post
    I hope you don’t feel responsible for creating the discussion. You’re not, you vented and what you described simply is annoying. I think everyone agreed on that at least
    Yeah, it wasn't him who got the topic of that toxic mentality started. He was just unfortunately the post that set someone off into ranting about it, which ended up with others either assuming he was complicit in the idea or they were responding blanketly to the topic that got raised to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
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    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishira View Post
    I hope you don’t feel responsible for creating the discussion. You’re not, you vented and what you described simply is annoying. I think everyone agreed on that at least
    Honestly, I do...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Hey, I'm only here until my work shift starts, and then you're free to either yell into the abyss or drop your own topic like you keep claiming you want! You keep quoting me, so while I'm around I humor it; if you think that's "instigating", that's on you. Don't like it, don't continue the convo! Pretty simple, I'd think.

    But yes, it isn't the thread topic - which is why I edited with a couple quick stories I had from what little DFing I've done lately. But here you are, dragging it off topic again because you just have to get the last word in, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Right back at you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herebedragons View Post
    Right back at you!
    Point proven, lmao.

    Anyway, it's off to work with me for the day. Capitalism grind is real. :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

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    "I swear I'm not just trying to get the last word in okay?! YOU keep replying to ME!!" lmao

    Anyways, I really haven't had to bad of a time in DF recently, besides a sorta scuffed world of darkness run. Surprisingly no one got salty in chat so that was a nice surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    "I swear I'm not just trying to get the last word in okay?! YOU keep replying to ME!!" lmao

    Anyways, I really haven't had to bad of a time in DF recently, besides a sorta scuffed world of darkness run. Surprisingly no one got salty in chat so that was a nice surprise.
    Hey, it takes two to tango

    A lot of first timer sprouts in that raid lately, it's nice when everyone stays cool. Because oh boy sometimes it gets hectic.
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