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    The speculation I've seen says they're Fandaniel and Deudalaphon, using the 'looks feline' and 'looks horned' logic, although that's all basically just vibes. Hell, we don't even know for sure one is Fandaniel's (although I personally assume it is, so that he and Gaius can have that 'wait I remember you' moment) But, for the record, the ones we've seen no mask for are:

    -Fandaniel (Leo)
    -Emmerololth (Aquarius)
    -Deudalaphon (Capricorn)
    -Altima (Virgo)
    -Pashtarot (Cancer)

    For the record, we only saw half of Loghrif's (Aries), and of course Emet-Selch's (Gemini) only in elaborate boss form.

    Now, out of those, we can reasonably rule out Emmerololth, who died on the Isle of Val at some point in 2.0/2.x. So reasonably, we're down to Fandaniel and the others we haven't seen. But there's something to point out there: since we haven't seen them, why does it matter who it is? Gaius didn't have the capacity to permakill them, so whoever it is, they're still alive. And since we don't know anything about any of them... well, what difference does it make if it was Deudalaphon or Altima?

    That's not being dismissive, that's legitimately asking the question to spur on discussion. If we know absolutely nothing about every single option, what value is there in speculation beyond being eventually proven wrong or right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
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    That's not being dismissive, that's legitimately asking the question to spur on discussion. If we know absolutely nothing about every single option, what value is there in speculation beyond being eventually proven wrong or right?
    Truth be told I’m just a big nerd that likes studying. I like to apply things I’ve learned to places, even if ultimately I’m just wasting my time. Rabbit holes are fun!

    For this specific bit,its’ absolutely tin foil hat territory, but I like to do a bit of story speculation; I think there is a lot to extract from their FF12 lore or real life name origin.

    As in, for Elidabus, his constellation is Ophiuchus has a star Sabik (which we have seen and I have thoughts about). We also have the companion constellation, whose brightest star is Unukalhai.

    Not that it NEED connect of course, but SE is known to pull inspiration from myth.

    Capricorn has a lot going on and a lot of names associated (even Typhon is loosely connected).
    I also remember Cancer has many connections to the moon in several ancient religions…so there is also that.

    Basically just nerding out and seeing what others might think
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