Increasing teleport fees is a regressive tax. It's not a good idea.

[Alxyzntlct]

I like travelling being accessible. Means I get around to do various content, not just things in specific regions. Like I wrote earlier, I'm doing Ananta in Gyr Abania, Kojin in the far east, and Faerie dailies in Norvrand, plus some deep dungeon, some FATEs on the way, sometimes a dungeon or two. I need this breadth of content to not get bored and eventually burnt out, but if I have to stress myself out because my money level keeps dropping, and I have to find a way to work for cash in game, I'd rather not play at all, or maybe stay in one area, log in and out there, which will reduce my game time drastically.

I don't know why they did this, and what it will look like when it's live, and maybe it will average out to roughly the same. I sure hope so, because I'm not going to "earn money" in game, to "meet month's end". Fk that.

This is my concern as well.

Even then, the pricing doesn’t concern me, it’s more that they might break aetherite tickets to not be as useful as they are now.

Like you said, this is a game, a game we’re paying to be entertained by. I already went through shenanigans like this with WoW when they tried to turn it into a job, I’m not going through that again.

I understand the desire to figure out ways to get players to spend more of their gil, but there are a thousand better methods of doing that.

[Sotaris]

It's not going to be a problem. The game already throws a ton of gil at you for just playing. Most people don't even teleport that much. They sit in limsa/fc house/whatever and queue with PF or DF.

[Alxyzntlct]

It's not going to be a problem. The game already throws a ton of gil at you for just playing. Most people don't even teleport that much. They sit in limsa/fc house/whatever and queue with PF or DF.

I've noticed that long-term players frequently respond back with this, not actually addressing the specific concerns people are flagging.

Great, we get it, all of you who have been playing for a long time already have everything you need/want and aren't worried about it, and any new players should just "not worry about", regardless of how it'll affect us.

Cool. Guess I need to start thinking about a new game if this is how new folks get treated here.

[Sotaris]

I've noticed that long-term players frequently respond back with this

Cause it might be true?

Great, we get it, all of you who have been playing for a long time already have everything you need/want and aren't worried about it, and any new players should just "not worry about", regardless of how it'll affect us.

Cool. Guess I need to start thinking about a new game if this is how new folks get treated here.

There isn't a need for that attitude.

Fact is even as a new player you get thrown gil (allagan pieces you can sell to npc), gil rewards. Then as you unluck dungeons and do your guildhest, leveling roulette you get gil for just running them.

Gil will not be a issue for you unless you waste it on useless stuff, that's on you I suppose.

[Alxyzntlct]

Cause it might be true?



There isn't a need for that attitude.

Fact is even as a new player you get thrown gil (allagan pieces you can sell to npc), gil rewards. Then as you unluck dungeons and do your guildhest, leveling roulette you get gil for just running them.

Gil will not be a issue for you unless you waste it on useless stuff, that's on you I suppose.

This is a video game. By the very definition, literally everything in it is useless. Nothing you do in the game, no accomplishments, no shiny items mean anything in the real world and considering it as such is the height of insanity.

I pay to play this game for entertainment. Everyone's #1 solution of "play more to earn the necessary gil" sounds like a job, and I'm not here to pay to play a job.

So yes, there is a need for this attitude. Blizzard wasted my time by slowly but surely turning the entertainment I was paying for into a job, and this change stinks exactly of that. Maybe I'm being gunshy, but being simply brushed off by long-term players just makes me think of all of addicts in WoW who responded the exact same way whenever folks questioned anything about the game.

If anything, I was just trepidatious before, but the attitude I'm seeing in this forum causes me a lot more concern, which is subsequently making me wonder what's really worth my long term investment.

[Mikey_R]

How do you afford things in other games? You play the game. Does it feel like a job there?

In the vast majority of cases, doing some content will get you Gil and also items you can sell for gil, or convert into something else for more gil.

Those beast tribe quests? Take the currency, spend what you need on Ventures and use that to send out retainers. That dungeon gear you keep passing? Either desynth and sell the mats, or turn into your GC and use the seals to but things to sell, or aetheryte tickets, yes, they are changing, but that doesn't mean they won't be helpful.

At the end of the day, unless you are literally doing nothing, I guarantee that you will always be making money, even without even trying.

[Asgon]

This is a video game. By the very definition, literally everything in it is useless. Nothing you do in the game, no accomplishments, no shiny items mean anything in the real world and considering it as such is the height of insanity.

I pay to play this game for entertainment. Everyone's #1 solution of "play more to earn the necessary gil" sounds like a job, and I'm not here to pay to play a job.

So yes, there is a need for this attitude. Blizzard wasted my time by slowly but surely turning the entertainment I was paying for into a job, and this change stinks exactly of that. Maybe I'm being gunshy, but being simply brushed off by long-term players just makes me think of all of addicts in WoW who responded the exact same way whenever folks questioned anything about the game.

If anything, I was just trepidatious before, but the attitude I'm seeing in this forum causes me a lot more concern, which is subsequently making me wonder what's really worth my long term investment.

To be honest with you. Your POV only shows how much you were abused by Blizzard in the past. You should really try to start trusting Devs again (especially the FF ones). Not everyone is a greedy corporate moron which want to waste players time to boost their metrics. I will guarantee you it wont have any impact on your ingame wealth if you still just playing the game like you did in the past.

[Vahlnir]

This is a video game. By the very definition, literally everything in it is useless. Nothing you do in the game, no accomplishments, no shiny items mean anything in the real world and considering it as such is the height of insanity.

I pay to play this game for entertainment. Everyone's #1 solution of "play more to earn the necessary gil" sounds like a job, and I'm not here to pay to play a job.

So yes, there is a need for this attitude. Blizzard wasted my time by slowly but surely turning the entertainment I was paying for into a job, and this change stinks exactly of that. Maybe I'm being gunshy, but being simply brushed off by long-term players just makes me think of all of addicts in WoW who responded the exact same way whenever folks questioned anything about the game.

If anything, I was just trepidatious before, but the attitude I'm seeing in this forum causes me a lot more concern, which is subsequently making me wonder what's really worth my long term investment.

If you are playing the game for fun and running roulettes anyway, the game throws gil at you even if you aren't actually trying to get it. I'm not in favor of this change, but I'm also aware that it will accomplish next to nothing...hence why I'm not in favor of it. There's a bunch of ways to make gil for 0 effort or at most 5 minutes out of your day. You just aren't aware of them, apparently. Or if you are you simply don't want to do it, which means no one can help you but yourself.

[Enjuden]

This is a video game. By the very definition, literally everything in it is useless. Nothing you do in the game, no accomplishments, no shiny items mean anything in the real world and considering it as such is the height of insanity.

I pay to play this game for entertainment. Everyone's #1 solution of "play more to earn the necessary gil" sounds like a job, and I'm not here to pay to play a job.

So yes, there is a need for this attitude. Blizzard wasted my time by slowly but surely turning the entertainment I was paying for into a job, and this change stinks exactly of that. Maybe I'm being gunshy, but being simply brushed off by long-term players just makes me think of all of addicts in WoW who responded the exact same way whenever folks questioned anything about the game.

If anything, I was just trepidatious before, but the attitude I'm seeing in this forum causes me a lot more concern, which is subsequently making me wonder what's really worth my long term investment.

You get at least 100k gil a week if you only do 80 and Expert each day, and that's without being a tank, and not counting the materia that can be sold to other players (which tends to be 10k to 50k per materia when content is relevant). In less than an hour's worth of time on average you're making a decent amount as a player without crafting, and that's if you don't go way out of your way for the items that are worth a lot, and you can triple that gil if you play as the role in need due to queue times and the ability to do other roulettes in that hour when playing efficiently.

The math has been done and the topic has been talked to death. Unless they negate the bonuses from doing roulette completely and/or you're intentionally throwing gil away by teleporting from Radz At Han/Moon and back to one of the three city states that are not favorited over and over again, you're not going to run out just by teleporting even if the fee somehow goes up to 2k per teleport. You'll make more than enough for the shown teleport fees as of right now. Whether this ages well or not we will have to see when the expac launches.

If you want me to compare WoW to XIV playtime and not be hyperbolic, I spend about a quarter of the time, if even that doing busy work and chores compared to WoW where you must do chores 24/7 if you wanted to be relevant.

[Reinha]

I like travelling being accessible. Means I get around to do various content, not just things in specific regions. Like I wrote earlier, I'm doing Ananta in Gyr Abania, Kojin in the far east, and Faerie dailies in Norvrand, plus some deep dungeon, some FATEs on the way, sometimes a dungeon or two.

All of these things give you gil...