First stage of Resistance weapons seems like an awkward bottleneck

[Kes13a]

I dont disagree thats its a pain, but its only a pain ... once.

I would prefer something easier for sure. unfortunately, any of the relic series from ARR forward are going to be designed as time sinks to have you getting something to do, if you desire, until the next expansion. this time, rather surprisingly, they have given the 180 phase, to do only once.

[AnotherPerson]

My post was an address to Iscah OP... who was not happy with how the first memory step was done (and I partially agree with). I came up with alternatives. These alternatives are activities you would be doing anyway when it comes to making the weapon.

Zadnor and Dalriada do not drop Silver Coins. That zone and that CE only drop Mythril and Platinum coins. You cannot make change into Silver coins from those two coin types. You can only convert Mythril to Platinum.

People already jump from zone to zone asking if CLL spawned. That's been happening since day one. My idea was not going to create this problem.

As for spending silver coins. Yes, that's the point: I have 1,345 sitting in my inventory. I already squashed a stack of 999 back in July. I want to spend those coins on something that could be used towards the weapon, hence the idea in the first place. I am not interested in the gear for glamour.

If my ideas are going to cause major problems, then what ideas do you have that will not cause that severity of problems?

Oop, that was my mistake. I keep on thinking Platinum coins is the silver version cause of the color. Thanks for correcting me.

Silver coins come from DR right? In that case, the first memory step taking Silver coins would be way too easy to get since it becomes a requirement to spam DR for Timeworn relics at a certain point. Doubly so if people farm DR for Timeworn Relics and Raw Emotions.

Instead, I would say it would work if the coin requirement are converted to Bozjan Gold Coins, but the amount can't be too small per memory. By doing Gold Coins, it incentivizes doing the weekly DR quest and adds a little extra for past relic steps with excess coins without completely reducing the purpose to farm memories in the Southern Front.

Alternatively, it could also work if people can also trade in memories by giving a large amount of regular Bozjan Coins (like 100 to 200 for one memory or maybe more). These would be ways to supplement memory farming in FATEs and CEs rather than farming clusters if people don't want to farm legion enemies, but will still require a fair amount of farming to do to gather the coins. After all, you can get coins from FATEs / Skirmishes and CEs, but also get coins by trading in notes you already possess. This will guarantee getting memories if you just want to farm FATEs and CEs. Plus, it incentivizes doing CLL in Bozja more since it guarantees 100 bozjan coins per run.

[Iscah]

I meant to reply to people but it has gotten overly late, so tomorrow.

But I think the key issue is that while I understand relic weapons are generally meant to be time-consuming, the 3 x 20 memory step is particularly time-consuming in a way that can't be easily overlapped with time spent on other tasks, combined with the fact that the overall process of collecting the various stages benefits greatly from having a relic underway at each stage of the process.

To be fully efficient with the later steps you need to get at least four relics underway, and all of them need that first hurdle of dedicated time collecting memories.

I tried farming from single enemies tonight after people suggested it here, but there wasn't a party available to join and the drop rate doing it solo seemed worse than from skirmishes.

[MilkieTea]

I meant to reply to people but it has gotten overly late, so tomorrow.

But I think the key issue is that while I understand relic weapons are generally meant to be time-consuming, the 3 x 20 memory step is particularly time-consuming in a way that can't be easily overlapped with time spent on other tasks, combined with the fact that the overall process of collecting the various stages benefits greatly from having a relic underway at each stage of the process.

To be fully efficient with the later steps you need to get at least four relics underway, and all of them need that first hurdle of dedicated time collecting memories.

I tried farming from single enemies tonight after people suggested it here, but there wasn't a party available to join and the drop rate doing it solo seemed worse than from skirmishes.

I’d suggest joining cluster farm discords. There’s one for Aether that I’m in, I’m sure there’s one for your DC. They organize farm parties that allow you to stay in one zone while others farm the other zone. It’d be hard doing it individually, because cluster farming individually is… big yikes levels of annoying.

If you join a group, you’ll both cap out on your clusters and have plenty of memories. You can also wait around, typically others are also shouting “LFG cluster farming,” so send out invites when you see them.

Typically I don’t even do the farming myself when I’m in a group- I always do star mobs and/or weather sprites while THEY do the hard work of cluster farming, and everyone benefits /lh

Another alternative is to set up a PF for BSF cluster farming.