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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    You should have read the rest of the post before posting your response. You would’ve read about using Bozjan silver coins as another option (which is a way to keep Bozjan content alive). I also stated to add drops to level 50 dungeons to add a level of fairness. I did not remove the option going into Southern Front and doing FATES. You could still do Southern Front and FATES if you choose to go those routes.

    The whole post was about not only Tomestones, it was mostly about using the later stages of the weapon to make things easier for earlier stages. SE did this with making DR drop the last two repeatable stages of the weapon. I did this with my four tank weapons: did 30 runs for the Raw Emotions and at the same time, I had my WHM weapon open for Timeworn Artifacts. By the end of all of those DR runs, I had 90 Timeworn Artifacts. I have completed an entire step for that WHM weapon and five other potential weapons.
    Oh, I definitely did read it. There's just no more point to doing Memory hunting if silver coins are used because it'll only incentivize Dalriada runs in Zadnor, not Bozjan Southern Front. Zadnor will be both more valuable from a mettle point and for farming Memories by getting Dalriada to spawn faster. People wouldn't be bothering with CLL if they can straight up buy the memories or go FATE farm elsewhere because the efficiency then became that much more higher. People rarely spend Silver coins on Blade gear as well because we have better ILV alternatives (ILV 525 vs ILV 530 augmented cryptlurker & savage gear). Other than for glamour, all those silver coins would the be spent on memories.

    Not a very good solution for keeping previous content alive in that case as the only incentive to do Bozjan Front would then be for CLL runs for loathsome memories. In which case, more people would just be there to pop into Bozja, ask whether CLL was up recently, and then leave instance if not up. No one will be actively spawning FATEs there or doing CEs other than the ones who are doing the content for the first time. After all, the rate of gaining memories here will not be as effective as Dalriada, and dying is a huge mettle loss compared to Zadnor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    Oh, I definitely did read it. There's just no more point to doing Memory hunting if silver coins are used because it'll only incentivize Dalriada runs in Zadnor, not Bozjan Southern Front. Zadnor will be both more valuable from a mettle point and for farming Memories by getting Dalriada to spawn faster. People wouldn't be bothering with CLL if they can straight up buy the memories or go FATE farm elsewhere because the efficiency then became that much more higher. People rarely spend Silver coins on Blade gear as well because we have better ILV alternatives (ILV 525 vs ILV 530 augmented cryptlurker & savage gear). Other than for glamour, all those silver coins would the be spent on memories.

    Not a very good solution for keeping previous content alive in that case as the only incentive to do Bozjan Front would then be for CLL runs for loathsome memories. In which case, more people would just be there to pop into Bozja, ask whether CLL was up recently, and then leave instance if not up. No one will be actively spawning FATEs there or doing CEs other than the ones who are doing the content for the first time. After all, the rate of gaining memories here will not be as effective as Dalriada, and dying is a huge mettle loss compared to Zadnor.
    My post was an address to Iscah OP... who was not happy with how the first memory step was done (and I partially agree with). I came up with alternatives. These alternatives are activities you would be doing anyway when it comes to making the weapon.

    Zadnor and Dalriada do not drop Silver Coins. That zone and that CE only drop Mythril and Platinum coins. You cannot make change into Silver coins from those two coin types. You can only convert Mythril to Platinum.

    People already jump from zone to zone asking if CLL spawned. That's been happening since day one. My idea was not going to create this problem.

    As for spending silver coins. Yes, that's the point: I have 1,345 sitting in my inventory. I already squashed a stack of 999 back in July. I want to spend those coins on something that could be used towards the weapon, hence the idea in the first place. I am not interested in the gear for glamour.

    If my ideas are going to cause major problems, then what ideas do you have that will not cause that severity of problems?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    My post was an address to Iscah OP... who was not happy with how the first memory step was done (and I partially agree with). I came up with alternatives. These alternatives are activities you would be doing anyway when it comes to making the weapon.

    Zadnor and Dalriada do not drop Silver Coins. That zone and that CE only drop Mythril and Platinum coins. You cannot make change into Silver coins from those two coin types. You can only convert Mythril to Platinum.

    People already jump from zone to zone asking if CLL spawned. That's been happening since day one. My idea was not going to create this problem.

    As for spending silver coins. Yes, that's the point: I have 1,345 sitting in my inventory. I already squashed a stack of 999 back in July. I want to spend those coins on something that could be used towards the weapon, hence the idea in the first place. I am not interested in the gear for glamour.

    If my ideas are going to cause major problems, then what ideas do you have that will not cause that severity of problems?
    Oop, that was my mistake. I keep on thinking Platinum coins is the silver version cause of the color. Thanks for correcting me.

    Silver coins come from DR right? In that case, the first memory step taking Silver coins would be way too easy to get since it becomes a requirement to spam DR for Timeworn relics at a certain point. Doubly so if people farm DR for Timeworn Relics and Raw Emotions.

    Instead, I would say it would work if the coin requirement are converted to Bozjan Gold Coins, but the amount can't be too small per memory. By doing Gold Coins, it incentivizes doing the weekly DR quest and adds a little extra for past relic steps with excess coins without completely reducing the purpose to farm memories in the Southern Front.

    Alternatively, it could also work if people can also trade in memories by giving a large amount of regular Bozjan Coins (like 100 to 200 for one memory or maybe more). These would be ways to supplement memory farming in FATEs and CEs rather than farming clusters if people don't want to farm legion enemies, but will still require a fair amount of farming to do to gather the coins. After all, you can get coins from FATEs / Skirmishes and CEs, but also get coins by trading in notes you already possess. This will guarantee getting memories if you just want to farm FATEs and CEs. Plus, it incentivizes doing CLL in Bozja more since it guarantees 100 bozjan coins per run.
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