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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I mean, realistically, Crystal is the weakest Data Center for raiding. We have statistics showing Crystal with less than half the average clear rates of Aether and Primal. Naturally, when new players ask about the raid scene, they'll be told which Data Centers cater towards that niche. I'm not going to tell someone they should go to Crystal for raiding when I know Aether is far more active. Just like I wouldn't tell someone looking for a robust roleplay scene to go to Aether when Crystal will be far more accommodating for them.

    None of this is to say you can't raid of Crystal or that all Crystal raiders are bad. It just has a much smaller scene.
    unfortunately this is the sort of reputation that will simply spiral. "Crystal is bad at raids" means that people who are interested in raiding primarily will make their characters elsewhere, and Crystal will not get the influx of raiders the other DCs will get.
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  2. #32
    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    unfortunately this is the sort of reputation that will simply spiral. "Crystal is bad at raids" means that people who are interested in raiding primarily will make their characters elsewhere, and Crystal will not get the influx of raiders the other DCs will get.
    Is that really a bad thing though in this type of mmorpg? A mmorpg lives and dies by the community it wants to hang around. So crystal being the one that does not care about raids. You will easier find people who line up with the things you enjoy also.


    I like that crystal is way more laid back, and has all types of players. That raiding is consider fluff more than a must have thing, because many of them know at the end of the day. That gear will be replaced and the carrot chase does not matter.


    In every mmorpg I join a RP server even though I don't rp. Why? Because I treat players like NPC that add immersion to the world when they openly rp. Also, rp servers tend to not die as fast as other servers in mmos, and market prices for glamour things tend to be up more from the demand rpers have. So in mmorpgs I love farming and making money. So it is just smart for me to always pick the RP servers for the best business.


    The downside to that is, some parts of the community think because of the server I am on. I must be a perverted unskilled furry or something because it is a crystal group people openly expected it to be bad. I could understand if that bothers some people.
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  3. #33
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    I find the server issue really amusing. If you look at open world except for a few zones they are complete ghost towns. SE also has the system in place to create more instances of one zone. It would be better if it was dynamic, but at least they can do it statically. If you removed housing and its awesome implementation from the game. You literally could squeeze all the worlds into one. But the reverse would be impossible since the most important aspect is shared, instance servers. They can't just throw another world onto Aether. Crystal already sees ques for solo instances and we haven't even reached expansion yet. I can't imagine what it is like on Aether.
    My experience on Jenova has been fine. About 30 or 40 person queues when I play in Eastern prime time into Eastern late night. And I can't remember the last time I saw a queue for a solo instance and I've unsynced a lot working on animas.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    My experience on Jenova has been fine. About 30 or 40 person queues when I play in Eastern prime time into Eastern late night. And I can't remember the last time I saw a queue for a solo instance and I've unsynced a lot working on animas.

    All weekend while doing different levels of MSQ on Crystal on alts, highest I saw was 4. So Crystal being the quietest of Data centres and we are at 4. Also 4 was not instant, but not a minute wait. I have yet to see reserving instance notification for dungeons though. So they might not share the real world assets. Or possible that at least that is dynamic and tries to prioritize dungeon over solo instance. I have yet to get the locked house error when instance servers are full as well.



    Instead of answering another question about glamour. A discussion about how instances work behind the scenes would be more interesting. What shares what and why we see what que. Does airforce gate and chocobo racing take from what pool of resources? Is it same pool and the system is complex enough to allocate resources where it is needed?
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    I like that crystal is way more laid back, and has all types of players. That raiding is consider fluff more than a must have thing, because many of them know at the end of the day. That gear will be replaced and the carrot chase does not matter.
    Crystal has a lot of drama for many different reasons. Aether is better in many ways. Even on casual content, Aether is better. Crystal does have raiders, though.
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    Player Wavaryen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    Crystal has a lot of drama for many different reasons. Aether is better in many ways. Even on casual content, Aether is better. Crystal does have raiders, though.
    What I mean about laid back as in the game itself and the content they expect people to play or do.


    Drama happens no matter what, and I don't find that as a bad thing. Heck RP in a sense is drama unfolding. I don't see how one cluster is better than the other as it is about the community and people you meet. I would find it a stretch that other servers have better people. They just have different ones. That is it.


    Having options is always good.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I mean, realistically, Crystal is the weakest Data Center for raiding. We have statistics showing Crystal with less than half the average clear rates of Aether and Primal. Naturally, when new players ask about the raid scene, they'll be told which Data Centers cater towards that niche. I'm not going to tell someone they should go to Crystal for raiding when I know Aether is far more active. Just like I wouldn't tell someone looking for a robust roleplay scene to go to Aether when Crystal will be far more accommodating for them.

    None of this is to say you can't raid of Crystal or that all Crystal raiders are bad. It just has a much smaller scene.
    This has been beaten to death over and over since Crystal was introduced. It's the weakest because you people ran away from a brand new data center with no past history to speak of and immediately condemned it because of one particular server that was put on it.

    And yet people keep wanting the devs to label servers and data centers as RP servers. Have you ever given it thought as to why they haven't done that? Why don't you learn to co-exist already? We're all playing the same game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyreil View Post
    This has been beaten to death over and over since Crystal was introduced. It's the weakest because you people ran away from a brand new data center with no past history to speak of and immediately condemned it because of one particular server that was put on it.

    And yet people keep wanting the devs to label servers and data centers as RP servers. Have you ever given it thought as to why they haven't done that? Why don't you learn to co-exist already? We're all playing the same game.
    Yup, agree with this.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyreil View Post
    This has been beaten to death over and over since Crystal was introduced. It's the weakest because you people ran away from a brand new data center with no past history to speak of and immediately condemned it because of one particular server that was put on it.

    And yet people keep wanting the devs to label servers and data centers as RP servers. Have you ever given it thought as to why they haven't done that? Why don't you learn to co-exist already? We're all playing the same game.
    Balmung and Mateus' presences on Crystal colored its reputation from the very start. At the time of the split, many serious raiders transferred to follow Gilgamesh because it had a strongly established raiding reputation since the time before cross-world PF even existed. With peoples friends and static-mates being forcibly moved to Aether, it's not at all surprising that they chose to follow suit rather than stick around on a roleplay server and watch their static disband. No one can be faulted for deciding to remain with the established community they were a member of, rather than build a new one from scratch for the benefit of a bunch of complete stranger.

    p.s You're not doing much for Crystals reputation by attacking and wishing suffering on hypothetical people who you feel have wronged your video-game server somehow lmao.
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