Go do Bozja if you wanna dps WAR
Go do Bozja if you wanna dps WAR
I want to heal people with my carpenter, why won't square enix let me do this???
... If you want to play a DPS class, then pick up a DPS class. You might appreciate a melee class if you enjoy close quarters combat - MNK, SAM, NIN, DRG. Or if you want a simpler class (similar to how WAR is a simpler tank class), I'd pick up a DNC or MCH, not a lot of button bloat but you'd have to get used to the idea of ranged combat.
i understand that you don't get comfortable with pressure of big pulls or fast dungeon as tank, but its a tank class! you can play as dps if you like with dps jobs. But final fantasy have role jobs, you cant change those cause its part of core of game. I don't tank the Hight end dungeon too, so i choose play other roles, if you choose warrior because of big weapons, wait for reaper or choose dragoon (have armor like warrior, and big lance), those have big weapons! Tanks are leaders, group go behind him, and usually they explain the fight. I bet many choosed warrior just cause Asmound plays one...
Id like not see this in final fantasy, that i have seen in wow: healer dps, dps go tank, and tank go dps, roles are there to help group and its expected you do role. Of course these bad experience you had in dungeon are not how most players in this game play, you may find one or two players that will bully you, but those are minority, and these behavior are not tolerated in this game, like wow game was in blizz. Try play dungeon or learn the basics of tanking in low level DG or Trust DG.
Hope you have fun, and don't feel forced to play something you don't like.
Last edited by Fellgon; 09-16-2021 at 11:08 AM.
Most of those are valid points and concerns. You just don't want to hear them.Wonder what's wrong with you all? I wrote I like my WARRIOR and I want to be able to choose my Role in Dungeons, between DD / Tank. And what is the answers I get?
- Play Class XYZ
- When you took up the job, you signed up to be a tank
- you are bad at your Role, try to learn it
- Play Solo your Warrior and in Dungeons a DD
- I don't know what you are asking for ... (Yeah FML it's so hard to read a short Posting here)
- You are Level 71 play Trust
- Is this a Troll Post? (Yeah all Postings are made by Trolls, even your Question! Now you know the Truth!)
I'm not usually the guy who says "Your fun is wrong", so I won't. You are welcome to enjoy Warrior however you like, but when you do group content with random players, you are the tank- full stop. Your fun should not come at the expense of others/what is common sense within the game.
The devs are usually not super hard-lined on many issues, but your role in the party is absolutely one they are firm over- to the point that you can and will be reported for purposely obstructing play.
Sorry, but that's how the game works. If you don't want to tank, don't be a tank.
Your wanting options or specs is fine, but it is one the devs have addressed with a flat "no, sorry, no"; and is a main part of why one character can play every job.
Last edited by kaynide; 09-16-2021 at 10:47 AM.
Seriously, I've been seeing a lot of people with the same mentality as you with complaining that their enjoyment of a class is being ruined when they play any tank class and go into roulettes or story dungeons with random players and the group wants to go at a reasonable place while the tank wants to go slow. At level 70 or so you should already be accustomed to the class to be able to pull at a reasonable pace. If the pace is too fast for you, use squadrons/trusts or go with friends or a FC. Problem solved.Wonder what's wrong with you all? I wrote I like my WARRIOR and I want to be able to choose my Role in Dungeons, between DD / Tank. And what is the answers I get?
- Play Class XYZ
- When you took up the job, you signed up to be a tank
- you are bad at your Role, try to learn it
- Play Solo your Warrior and in Dungeons a DD
- I don't know what you are asking for ... (Yeah FML it's so hard to read a short Posting here)
- You are Level 71 play Trust
- Is this a Troll Post? (Yeah all Postings are made by Trolls, even your Question! Now you know the Truth!)
As it is, WAR does a decent amount of damage spamming Fel Cleave all the time, and has good self-healing and it is a tank. It always will be a tank, it won't change. Like the other points that people have stated above, if you feel like you're not enjoying your class due to being in a group setting, just run solo with squadrons/trusts. And literally every single job in this game is a DPS with slightly different stats and slightly different roles, but all classes do damage so I'm not sure what you're complaining about here.
The Warrior job was designed as a tank. For them to queue as a DPS, they would need a kit overhaul, or rather a different, secondary kit for DPS. If they do this for Warrior, then they must do this for other classes as well, meaning a whole bunch of alternate kits to be designed, balanced, tested, etc. What you are asking for is no small feat and doesn't fit with the game's design. Instead of playing one class with a few 'specialization' options, you get to play all the classes, each with their own set role. Such is the class/job system in FFXIV.
I'm also wondering how it is that you've ran into so many horrible/rude groups that treat you so poorly when I've yet to see a single instance of such behavior in the 2+ months I've been playing since I returned to this game. I'm not saying these things don't happen, I just doubt they happen at the frequency that is being suggested in this post.
Honestly, I really wouldn't hate a WoW style multi role system for jobs, but it doesn't really make much sense when there's content that allows you to flex your role (bojza) and every character can multi job already. realistically it would just be too much work trying to balance current jobs around multi roles.
Aesthetically it would be awesome to be a full DPS warrior all the time, or a tank Samurai, or a healer Dancer, but unfortunately the game just isn't designed with that in mind, and they probably won't change course on it.
May I ask, to get a clearer picture, did you recently buy the game, and then the level or story skip?
It's understandable if you didn't know about tank role stuff, and maybe having players on your back a bit if this is what happened, as other players are used to those who have experience with the game before the level 70+ dungeons, they are quite a bit harder than some of the others when leveling and learning a new job.
In the game, there's only one class that can be used for two different roles, and that is arcanist, it can be used for summoner (dps) and scholar (healer).
There isn't currently anything in the game for warrior to have a split job tree like these too, sorry![]()
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