those tanks and dpses always existed, probably conditioned from pure healbots to always be at full health, tbh
those tanks and dpses always existed, probably conditioned from pure healbots to always be at full health, tbh

Nah, you're doing fine. I'm a tank main, and 60% will be fine in most cases for me, especially since I've recently begun practising and learning how to heal, giving me an insight into the healer kit.
But with the recent influx of new players from other MMOs where they aren't used to how healing works in FFXIV, you will get players who think that not having 100% are a death sentence.
Only HP that matters is the last. If no one died then you are doing great! Playing how low you can go is the best part of being a healer. When you run into people like that you should let their HP dip even further and stay at that point longer, and keep doing such a thing until the complaints stop. Though I get this also gets stressful for the healer, but it will be 100x worse for the one complaining. :Pas a healer main i played dps recently alot. but since i got a friend to test the game (he absolutely fell for it) i naturally helped him as a healer in his dungeons (because insta-queue obviously)
i‘ve recently noticed an influx of people being scared to death being at 60% health.
i had some dude start jumping in front of me ?trying? to signal they need heals, even though there was no danger and i could continue to dps, while my ogcd heals get the job done wonderfully. again he wasn‘t even low to begin with.
people telling me „i main *insert healer job* - people must be fully healed, it‘s your job“.
i mean okay - obviously if i let people die - it‘s my fault. but dungeons are so easy i rarely let one die (expect if they stand in everything and die because of 1 hits) - in my eyes it‘s wasted dps if i try hard keeping everyone at 100% hp.
did i miss something? or did healers generally get bad and people automatically asume that of me because i heal only when necessary.
Last edited by Awha; 09-15-2021 at 07:56 AM.




You’re on point: keeping everyone topped at 100% is almost always an absolute waste of resource in FFXIV. I repeat, -In FFXIV-. Considering we have rather massive influx of new players that may have different MMO background, they probably aren’t accustomed to how veteran healers heals in FFXIV.as a healer main i played dps recently alot. but since i got a friend to test the game (he absolutely fell for it) i naturally helped him as a healer in his dungeons (because insta-queue obviously)
i‘ve recently noticed an influx of people being scared to death being at 60% health.
i had some dude start jumping in front of me ?trying? to signal they need heals, even though there was no danger and i could continue to dps, while my ogcd heals get the job done wonderfully. again he wasn‘t even low to begin with.
people telling me „i main *insert healer job* - people must be fully healed, it‘s your job“.
i mean okay - obviously if i let people die - it‘s my fault. but dungeons are so easy i rarely let one die (expect if they stand in everything and die because of 1 hits) - in my eyes it‘s wasted dps if i try hard keeping everyone at 100% hp.
did i miss something? or did healers generally get bad and people automatically asume that of me because i heal only when necessary.


As long as the healer knows their healing kit and damage stuff.as a healer main i played dps recently alot. but since i got a friend to test the game (he absolutely fell for it) i naturally helped him as a healer in his dungeons (because insta-queue obviously)
i‘ve recently noticed an influx of people being scared to death being at 60% health.
i had some dude start jumping in front of me ?trying? to signal they need heals, even though there was no danger and i could continue to dps, while my ogcd heals get the job done wonderfully. again he wasn‘t even low to begin with.
people telling me „i main *insert healer job* - people must be fully healed, it‘s your job“.
i mean okay - obviously if i let people die - it‘s my fault. but dungeons are so easy i rarely let one die (expect if they stand in everything and die because of 1 hits) - in my eyes it‘s wasted dps if i try hard keeping everyone at 100% hp.
did i miss something? or did healers generally get bad and people automatically asume that of me because i heal only when necessary.
Even at lv80 I had some healers who pretty much gets party killed because they think leaving everybody at last hp and not healing after 2 raid damage is still good, disregarding any possibility.
But for the actual answer, a lot of fresh tanks are so used to get healed spam so they may never experience having their health in half or below.
And I must thank to all the tanks who trust my scholar healing in Stormblood dungeons and w2w, I think I did the most of healing in those dungeons and they have been fun



I used rescue on a tank and he proceeded to use Shirk on me for the rest of the dungeon. Was pretty funny.



good grief, i have had two terrible alliance raids in a row, right after an amazing DRS victory
first one...near wipe on the first and second fights of the tower. Things got better until the last boss...where the same people kept dying. Who happened to be the healers of the other parties.
second raid copied factory. I had one of the worst parties I have ever seen:
-tank that didn't use mitigation
-2 healers that did 0 dps and chatted the entire time and even used cure 1 on me when i misread a mechanic and ate a laser knocking me to 15%
-freestyling samurai who never once used iajutsu
-rdm that constantly died
-dancer that didnt partner (until i pointed it out) or use standard step (they did tech step once a fight)
the only other competent member of the group was the summoner who bless him passed on the glam I have been trying to get for months.
to top it all off, one of the other parties was in a near state of dead for the first and last fight




Some friends asked if I wanted to join in with them on a few runs of the Nier raids, of which I gladly agreed - I'm perpetually in need of coins, and still farming glamour and music and the elusive minions across far too many alts. Plus, they're just my favorite raid series anyway. I certainly want to get as many runs in of them as I can before they inevitably fade into obscurity along with the likes of Orbonne Monastery in the roulette, come Endwalker.
Anyway, pretty uneventful for the most part. Tower pops, we get in, DPS was good (thank gods for that). I accidentally took aggro on the first boss a couple times, though; I turned my stance on at about 70%, as I usually do, since that's typically time enough for the MT to have a good lead on aggro. Usually, barring them dying, I won't overtake after waiting that long to pop mine on... usually. I guess I was out-dpsing them though, as around 50% and 30% I saw it target me, and had to take my stance off again so the MT could regain aggro. But not a big deal.
Tanked Gretel as usual, no complaints from the MT.
We get to Red Girl, though, and she begins casting her TB on the three of us. I pre-position as far from players and other tanks as I can while still being within melee range, but suddenly right as the cast finishes, I'm yanked through her and into a group of people who - expectedly - quickly try to scatter to the winds. My poor AST swears in chat and begins profusely apologizing, it was an accidental Rescue while they were trying to shield me.
Thankfully, the damage must have snapshotted right as I got yanked, because no one got hurt except me. Even so, they felt horrible. I kept saying it was fine (gods know I've yanked by accident many a time, since Rescue is right by Esuna on my hotbar), and honestly? I was cracking up at the whole thing. Literally tears in my eyes laughing while fighting the boss, all while this poor healer was apologizing and - eventually - laughing as well.
Gave them my comm in the end - they were a good healer, to be fair, but man that little accident amused the heck out of me.
Last edited by Kaoru_Nagisa; 09-16-2021 at 01:10 PM.




You'd think that, but I feel like a lot of players have never played a game before, let alone an mmo, in their life.You’re on point: keeping everyone topped at 100% is almost always an absolute waste of resource in FFXIV. I repeat, -In FFXIV-. Considering we have rather massive influx of new players that may have different MMO background, they probably aren’t accustomed to how veteran healers heals in FFXIV.![]()
WHM | RDM | DNC
Yesterday I decided to try tanking again, been playing DPS since my last break, so I fired up my Gun breaker and hit the roulette and drew Stone Vigil. Cool whatever, I get going starts off good, i start off with some small pulls to check things out, then go wall to wall and apparently pulled too much, I apologized, then things were going good again get to the last boss I flex then head in and look at my party (should a checked before and realize my healer is still watching cut scene lol) we almost managed but I was out of CDs and died. Needless to say we finished but I felt bad for my poor group, even worse that it was just dumb mistakes but hey it happens on occasion and I own it.
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