Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Omegalul DRn tanking shenanigans

Personally I've tanked SEVERAL tankbusters as a WHM on Aetherweaver and survived for keeping the aggro for good first 30 - 60s (or good deal of minutes if the MT somehow drops dead in mid encounter). Full medals & bubble buff also helped immensely to faceroll this.

I do have to kite the bosses as well because it delays auto attacks. Most of time when I still die for tanking on non tanks is because when a tankbuster damage coincides with the next auto attack. Moving out of their auto attack range helps delay this coinciding damage spike.

I just tanked stuff until I died from tank busters. The only boss I didn’t die from TB was Trinity Avowed, thanks to Lost Reflect.

Unlike you, I didn’t attempt to “teach a lesson” and MPK the group. I didn’t pop sprint and run around to ruin everyone else’s time. It was easier to just own the run and tank for the sake of everyone else instead of being passive aggressive.

Let's be real though: unless mechanic forces movement, it's generally the norm that a tank keeps the boss in one spot. When the boss is being kited, that alone should've sent the message across that there's something wrong is going on. -IF- there's at least one tank in the raid who forgets or chooses not to press that one button to steal the aggro to make lives easier for the rest of the raid, they're also (un)intentionally grieving 23 other players. I do have to say though: it's really nice of you to do the actual tank's job on their behalf for however long it is.

I would also kite (while try not to point tankbusters to group) because I'm not well equipped to main tank the encounter! If I want to I'd just go with tank class or went Platebearer/Pure Essence with Lost Incense!

[SturmChurro]

I come again...

Part of the reason why I'm having more-than-often bad runs is because I'm leveling my alt classes and spamming dungeons. This means that I'm doing anywhere from 10-20 a day, and at least one of those is bad.

Anyways.

The scene: Cutters Cry.

Me, another DPS, and a tank and whm. Tank is doing alright, white mage is... acting weird. Popping regen on me when I'm at full health, running into walls, that kind of weird. They also... didn't use esuna. Like. At all.

We wipe to the last boss 4 times because the healer refuses to use esuna OR step in or out for violet or blue. I crashed so I only got the last of the messages, but....

..Cutter's Cry? Sometimes I'm glad me getting burned out from relic weapons, and waiting for Endwalker, just so happened to coincide with the surge of new players (so I don't have to deal with them). Like don't get me wrong, it's good that the game is growing in popularity, but I will never understand how some players just simply cannot grasp simple mechanics or usage of their kit.

[Jettinson]

I had a Delubrum run earlier where I would constantly die at the start of fights because the boss was aggroing onto me, by the time we got to the 3rd boss I was not happy in the slightest about it, so being reasonable I gave it a couple GCDs before I popped noble ends and then reassemble lost slashed the boss, nope, took aggro the second I did that and the tankbuster marker appeared on me.

Me being thoroughly fed up with this at this point just decided "Eh, if I'm going to die then I'm going to get a point across" and pointed the tankbuster at the entire raid, didn't kill everyone but I think I got around 12-15 people with it. After that I didn't have aggro issues with the last boss.

I don't know why I have such rotten luck with tanks in Bozja content, but it's really not making it any easier to play a non-tank when you're pulling aggro as a DPS because people can't be bothered to turn on stance.

Seriously, I've pretty much developed my own self-defense mechanism when I pull boss aggro on a non-tank where I basically pop sprint and run the boss in circles, which makes it nearly impossible for melee dps to get full uptime on the boss when they're not standing still for casts, usually someone gets the point and provokes it off, but sheesh is it annoying when I have to do it.

I might just have to bite the bullet and go back to tanking because at this point I don't trust a pug to tank a ham sandwich

Once you use pure essence dps, tanking is never a problem so I really do not care for it, the only thing is knowing if tanks exists or not so I can bring some potions out of safety. Never had problem as Samurai and not even need a Lost Incense/Provoke, you also have Bloodbath and you get lots of hp recovered from just doing damage.

And surely I am not going to waste my time making my point across by needlessly run in circles everytime so I type in chat of tanks, if not move on and when I didn't have pure essence back in the first weeks, I would just leave. Tanks are barely necessary aside the 2nd boss for the gank start for casual runs.
The only reason sometimes I pick tank now it is because I feel lazy and want to have a reason to use Lost Blood Rush with Warrior just for the sweet Inner Release spam

[KageTokage]

I got Amaurot in mentor roulette earlier. The DPS were a well-geared SAM and BLM (Who had a completed Bozja relic) so I was expecting things to go reasonably quickly initially despite the healer not contributing any damage whatsoever...but then it took nearly five minutes to kill the first pair of trash pulls.

On closer observation, I realized the SAM was literally only doing their single target combos and not using any OGCDs or iaijutsu, while the BLM was just kinda...pressing buttons.

The run ended up taking nearly 40 minutes after wiping to the soft enrage on the final boss once.

I'm really feeling like they need to add at least a little guidance on how to play each job properly, though in cases like this it feels like they probably just don't care if they're not using a significant portion of their kit at all.

[MilkieTea]

..Cutter's Cry? Sometimes I'm glad me getting burned out from relic weapons, and waiting for Endwalker, just so happened to coincide with the surge of new players (so I don't have to deal with them). Like don't get me wrong, it's good that the game is growing in popularity, but I will never understand how some players just simply cannot grasp simple mechanics or usage of their kit.

Unfortunately I'm dealing with lower-levelled dungeons as I level my lowest classes. Only have 2 more jobs to level to 50 and then I can escape that absolute hell hole.

[Dogempire]

Once you use pure essence dps, tanking is never a problem so I really do not care for it, the only thing is knowing if tanks exists or not so I can bring some potions out of safety. Never had problem as Samurai and not even need a Lost Incense/Provoke, you also have Bloodbath and you get lots of hp recovered from just doing damage.

And surely I am not going to waste my time making my point across by needlessly run in circles everytime so I type in chat of tanks, if not move on and when I didn't have pure essence back in the first weeks, I would just leave. Tanks are barely necessary aside the 2nd boss for the gank start for casual runs.
The only reason sometimes I pick tank now it is because I feel lazy and want to have a reason to use Lost Blood Rush with Warrior just for the sweet Inner Release spam

Eh, I was playing WHM and healer is the only job where the pure essence isn't very good, plus it also happens to me frequently in CE's and also in Dalriada, so it's not limited to just Delubrum

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Speaking of BSF stuff a bit, I just got out from disastrous CLL. The raid had 28/48 participants when it was commenced.

Brionac & The Gate
• My party hangs on bottom part. We had a healthy split of 13 | 15 before start pulling. For some reason when bottom had burnt their boss down to 30%ish, the top still had about 78% it was baffling. We cleared this boss in 13m with the Tunnel Armor having only 6% of its health remaining.

Albeleo & His animals.
• Nothing much, except the fact that I got murdered for ripping all mobs’ aggro for unleashing Misery+Assize buffed by aetherweaver, noble end, & seraph strike. If it wasn’t for the noble end I could’ve probably survive long enough to let the tank took back all the aggro.

Prisoners’ Rescue
• Nobody communicate which side was already safe. For a 28-man raid it feels awfully embarrassing to only have rescued 4/6.

Addrammelech
• First wipe of the run. Too much players cannot understand the concept of staying still & look pretty at face of Fire variant of Curse of The Fiends. Not enough dps to take out the remaining 2 meteors.
• Second pull is cleaner but people are still dropping like flies. This time I waste no time in trying to get those players up & just burnt most of my bursty phase to take out the meteors.

Dawon & Lyon
• Miscommunications that led to Lyon party being separated. On top of that raid DPS was pathetic. First pull wipes.
• Second attempt. People stop before pulling to reform their Lyon party. I join them, only 3 of them are essenceless. I saw two RDM are going with the Flare Star+chainspell setup. So it should be fine this time, right?
• While we’re assembling I took my time inspecting other players’ buff bar. Only about half of them are using essences. Furthermore from these essenced bunch, only half of them are using dps essences. Coupled with the multiple deaths it’d only make sense why the raid dps was so pathetic.
• Second pull initiated. Five of my party member had brink of death debuff as we’re assembling to fight Lyon. Three DPS flat out die really quickly at the face of first few mechanics. If I wasn’t there to nuke, the party will never meet up the dps check.
• Okay! So we’ve cleared Lyon. I can but only glared mentally at one of my party member saying ”Ez” upon ‘our’ Lyon clear. Nevertheless…

…We failed the run.
Dawon at 33%, we ran out of time.

”Let’s just pretend that CLL had never happened from first place.”, said one of the raid’s participant in shout chat.

It is but an achievement forever ingrained in my small head, mate.

I need a drink.

[Eien713]

Sigh... I don't get why people feel the need to be unnecessarily rude -.- This was about using Vril when Lakshmi goes to the center after the transition. For the record, we wiped once (not because of the mechanic in question) and this was our second attempt. We saw the mechanic the first time, but no one asked until this point. Also, 2 people died to the transition the first time. Those who knew what to do kept jumping with their bubbles in front of the people who hadn't used Vril, and many of the latter figured it out except for 2 people. One of the people who died (a tank) asked if they had to use Vril before the cutscene and were told that yes. Also, the person lashing out died to the mechanic themselves. They weren't "standing up" for anyone or anything like this.

[SenorPatty]

Sigh... I don't get why people feel the need to be unnecessarily rude -.- This was about using Vril when Lakshmi goes to the center after the transition. For the record, we wiped once (not because of the mechanic in question) and this was our second attempt. We saw the mechanic the first time, but no one asked until this point. Also, 2 people died to the transition the first time. Those who knew what to do kept jumping with their bubbles in front of the people who hadn't used Vril, and many of the latter figured it out except for 2 people. One of the people who died (a tank) asked if they had to use Vril before the cutscene and were told that yes. Also, the person lashing out died to the mechanic themselves. They weren't "standing up" for anyone or anything like this.

- Doesn't want to guess the content

- Wants experienced people to preemptively dish information

-Will not consult a written guide that could do a better job at explaining things than something written hastily mid-fight.

Sums up the type of sprout players who want everything but ultimately end up losing everything.

[Fukuro]

as a healer main i played dps recently alot. but since i got a friend to test the game (he absolutely fell for it ) i naturally helped him as a healer in his dungeons (because insta-queue obviously)
i‘ve recently noticed an influx of people being scared to death being at 60% health.
i had some dude start jumping in front of me ?trying? to signal they need heals, even though there was no danger and i could continue to dps, while my ogcd heals get the job done wonderfully. again he wasn‘t even low to begin with.
people telling me „i main *insert healer job* - people must be fully healed, it‘s your job“.
i mean okay - obviously if i let people die - it‘s my fault. but dungeons are so easy i rarely let one die (expect if they stand in everything and die because of 1 hits) - in my eyes it‘s wasted dps if i try hard keeping everyone at 100% hp.

did i miss something? or did healers generally get bad and people automatically asume that of me because i heal only when necessary.