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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxCh40s View Post
    Based off of what evidence?
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=IkC1r0eJZ-c&t=313s

    Malefic IV cast straight in front of you.

    Then what follows is your new instant spell, obviously a shield. It most likely boosts stats as well, seems like a 1-2-1-2 rotation. You see the AST casting another malefic cast(behind the bard) which is followed by the same new spell.

    It is possible that the new spell is actually an oGCD with a short cd or it can stack like Essential Dignity. In any case, it is going to be something you play around. If it is GCD, it is going to be more than a shield, if it is oGCD, it probably becomes available after Malefic casts.

    Also, since AST is casting Malefic IV, you can speculate that healers did not get nuke upgrade at level cap. At least AST didn't. Healers will need an increase in potency which they could get from somewhere else.
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=IkC1r0eJZ-c&t=313s

    Malefic IV cast straight in front of you.

    Then what follows is your new instant spell, obviously a shield. It most likely boosts stats as well, seems like a 1-2-1-2 rotation. You see the AST casting another malefic cast(behind the bard) which is followed by the same new spell.

    It is possible that the new spell is actually an oGCD with a short cd or it can stack like Essential Dignity. In any case, it is going to be something you play around. If it is GCD, it is going to be more than a shield, if it is oGCD, it probably becomes available after Malefic casts.

    Also, since AST is casting Malefic IV, you can speculate that healers did not get nuke upgrade at level cap. At least AST didn't. Healers will need an increase in potency which they could get from somewhere else.
    That’s the same type of animation used for aspected benefic. It’s aspected benefic II as we’ve seen white mage is also getting an upgrade to divine benison.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=IkC1r0eJZ-c&t=313s

    Malefic IV cast straight in front of you.

    Then what follows is your new instant spell, obviously a shield. It most likely boosts stats as well, seems like a 1-2-1-2 rotation. You see the AST casting another malefic cast(behind the bard) which is followed by the same new spell.

    It is possible that the new spell is actually an oGCD with a short cd or it can stack like Essential Dignity. In any case, it is going to be something you play around. If it is GCD, it is going to be more than a shield, if it is oGCD, it probably becomes available after Malefic casts.

    Also, since AST is casting Malefic IV, you can speculate that healers did not get nuke upgrade at level cap. At least AST didn't. Healers will need an increase in potency which they could get from somewhere else.
    Or, maybe, just maybe, it’s a benchmark trailer and they don’t want to give away all the new stuff until the job action trailer comes out, so what’s in there has all the classes at level 82 (as x4 is traditionally the healer nuke upgrade level for each expansion).

    Assuming that healers are getting combos of that sort is the biggest bluster I’ve ever seen. SE hates gating any form of healing behind DPS. That’s why cleric stance got removed in the first place. We already know its an oGCD from the particles around the AST as it was used. We’re assuming it’s a shield because all of the healers appear to have that sort of action. No shot on it giving a stat buff. They’ll rework cards to do that first if they do it at all.
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    That’s the same type of animation used for aspected benefic. It’s aspected benefic II as we’ve seen white mage is also getting an upgrade to divine benison.
    It actually isn't

    Aspected benefic

    Divine Benison just got its sfx updated, nothing else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
    Or, maybe, just maybe, it’s a benchmark trailer and they don’t want to give away all the new stuff until the job action trailer comes out, so what’s in there has all the classes at level 82 (as x4 is traditionally the healer nuke upgrade level for each expansion).

    Assuming that healers are getting combos of that sort is the biggest bluster I’ve ever seen. SE hates gating any form of healing behind DPS. That’s why cleric stance got removed in the first place. We already know its an oGCD from the particles around the AST as it was used. We’re assuming it’s a shield because all of the healers appear to have that sort of action. No shot on it giving a stat buff. They’ll rework cards to do that first if they do it at all.
    The healing doesn't need to be gated, the bonus stat buff could be.

    In Shb they did showcase sch's new nuke, it was the same in HS with whm. In SB we didn't see any nukes being cast but we know the benchmark was done at level cap because whm used confession and sch used fey union.

    The chances of AST being at level cap in Endwalker are pretty high when you look at how they used to do their benchmarks.

    It is 100% a shield because the particles around AST have the lunar symbol which is closely related to the Noctural sect. And I was just wondering if the seals you have aligned could change the symbols that you have when you are casting it. Probably not.
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  5. #175
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    Then what follows is your new instant spell, obviously a shield. It most likely boosts stats as well, seems like a 1-2-1-2 rotation. You see the AST casting another malefic cast(behind the bard) which is followed by the same new spell.
    Sadly, if you watch the footage closely, we don't see the AST use the skill immediately after Malefic. Instead, they seem to wait a moment and act as if the skill is on the GCD.

    That’s the same type of animation used for aspected benefic. It’s aspected benefic II as we’ve seen white mage is also getting an upgrade to divine benison.
    While you might be right about what these skills are (since no one can really know until Yoshi unleashes this knowledge upon us, for better or worse), neither of the animations used are exact matches to Aspected Benefic or Divine Benison's current animation.
    In the case of AST, at this point, I suspect that skill is either a skill/spell on the GCD that has limited charges or mimics the Lily system (because homogenization is the name of the game for healers), or it's a single-target OGCD that is placed and then can be re-cast for a specific effect to take place (Possibly, a "rewind" ability, or, potentially, a pinpoint horoscope (yaaaaay)).

    The chances of AST being at level cap in Endwalker are pretty high when you look at how they used to do their benchmarks.
    On the other hand, AST is always behind in terms of their single-target nukes, so even if AST doesn't get an upgrade to Malefic, it's possible the others will get updates to their respective nukes.
    That said, it would be slightly disappointing, if only because the particle effect for Malefic IV isn't exactly the greatest thing ever.
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  6. #176
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    Honesty I think the shield after the cast is just an updated Celestial Intersection but since noct sect is going away, it will either get the extra particle effects during the 71-80 leveling process. Could there be a stat buff attached to it, maybe but I wouldn’t hold my breath with it. Their track record is really spotty considering healers after ARR.
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    I just find it weird that they'd state to want to separate raw and shield healers, and then [seemingly] go and upgrade AST and WHM shields of all things, it just... doesn't add up
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I just find it weird that they'd state to want to separate raw and shield healers, and then [seemingly] go and upgrade AST and WHM shields of all things, it just... doesn't add up
    SE isn’t good at balancing at all. Remember when Yoshi said back in HW that they tune raids without healer dps in mind? Yeah that’s very obviously a lie as week one clears literally wouldn’t exist without healer dps lmao.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    SE isn’t good at balancing at all. Remember when Yoshi said back in HW that they tune raids without healer dps in mind? Yeah that’s very obviously a lie as week one clears literally wouldn’t exist without healer dps lmao.
    I find myself rolling my eyes whenever Yoshi says anything anymore.
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  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    I find myself rolling my eyes whenever Yoshi says anything anymore.
    Especially when he talks about Jobs other than Black Mage. Like, "Uh huh, sure, yeaaaa, mmhmm."
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