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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennah View Post
    ... you know, I'm pretty sure that torturing and then brutally murdering young children is at least as bad as sexually molesting them. Probably worse.
    It's hard telling, on one hand at least they left their victim alive but on the other hand look what they did, either way I'd say just take the torturer outback and put a bullet in their head.

    Plus hopefully I'm not getting on your nerves were I keep this convo between us going, I'm an extrovert and I never shut up unless I'm in physical pain lol, but if you'd like to end it then don't respond to me and I'll get the hint, if so ty for your time my friend.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    I was just a weird kid and in the 80s they were popular lol
    No, you were a normal kid who liked popular things. No need to apologize, or to qualify your sexuality with a preferred gender and age range. I actually find that a bit odd in and of itself. I mean, you liked Michael Jackson just like hundreds of millions of other people... yet you feel compelled to point out that you aren't, in fact, a child predator. Well, neither am I, nor are 99.9% of the other billion folks that bought Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad. Eh, I digress...

    Anyway, it's important to point out here that Freddy Krueger is a fictitious character whereas Michael Jackson was a real person. Freddy was originally written, back in the early 80s, as a child molester. They changed him to a "teen murderer" to get the movies made; without that change no green light would have been given. But yeah, dude was meant to be the pinnacle of evil, so I guess child predator ticks that box.

    The 2010 remake went back to the original idea for Freddy - that of a child predator. So, you can take this as you will. I had Freddy up on my walls when I was 12 and I don't feel guilty about it at all. Why should I? He was a horror movie legend. Still is. However they decided to change his character outside of the original movies doesn't change my love for horror movie villains from when I was a young kid.

    Ditto Michael, regardless of what he did. You gotta separate the art from the artist. I know 'cancel culture' dictates otherwise, but it just ain't so. I still watch Roman Polanski movies (some of the best psychological thrillers ever made) and Woody Allen movies. Still listen to MJ. Still listen to albums produced by Phil Spector.

    Because all of this art is amazing art. /sigh

    Here's another good example. Since you were a kid in the eighties, you witnessed the world get an instant distaste for Milli Vanilli. Objectively, they were kings of pop, too. Five number ones, their second album went 6x platinum. Then, cancel culture got 'em. We were being lied to! Well, guess what, we never liked their music in the first place!

    Yeah, right.

    Nevermind the fact that one cannot 'choose' what music they like and don't like. It happens on a subconscious level, and a revelation about lip-syncing and bogus frontmen doesn't 're-program' your subconscious not to like a song. The dopamine release happens regardless. Same deal with MJ, Nightmare on Elm Street movies, etc., etc.

    Shoot, I still play their tracks from time to time. Yeah, they're basically eighteen variations of an Ashley's Roachclip breakbeat loop, but they are catchy. If the art is good, the art is good. The shenanigans of the artist objectively does not change the art.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 09-12-2021 at 09:14 AM.
    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    No, you were a normal kid who liked popular things. No need to apologize, or to qualify your sexuality with a preferred gender and age range. I actually find that a bit odd in and of itself. I mean, you liked Michael Jackson just like hundreds of millions of other people... yet you feel compelled to point out that you aren\\'t, in fact, a child predator. Well, neither am I, nor are 99.9% of the other billion folks that bought Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad. Eh, I digress...

    Anyway, it\\'s important to point out here that Freddy Krueger is a fictitious character whereas Michael Jackson was a real person. Freddy was originally written, back in the early 80s, as a child molester. They changed him to a "teen murderer" to get the movies made; without that change no green light would have been given. But yeah, dude was meant to be the pinnacle of evil, so I guess child predator ticks that box.

    The 2010 remake went back to the original idea for Freddy - that of a child predator. So, you can take this as you will. I had Freddy up on my walls when I was 12 and I don\\'t feel guilty about it at all. Why should I? He was a horror movie legend. Still is. However they decided to change his character outside of the original movies doesn\\'t change my love for horror movie villains from when I was a young kid.

    Ditto Michael, regardless of what he did. You gotta separate the art from the artist. I know \\'cancel culture\\' dictates otherwise, but it just ain\\'t so. I still watch Roman Polanski movies (some of the best psychological thrillers ever made) and Woody Allen movies. Still listen to MJ. Still listen to albums produced by Phil Spector.

    Because all of this art is amazing art. /sigh

    Here\\'s another good example. Since you were a kid in the eighties, you witnessed the world get an instant distaste for Milli Vanilli. Objectively, they were kings of pop, too. Five number ones, their second album went 6x platinum. Then, cancel culture got \\'em. We were being lied to! Well, guess what, we never liked their music in the first place!

    Yeah, right.

    Nevermind the fact that one cannot \\'choose\\' what music they like and don\\'t like. It happens on a subconscious level, and a revelation about lip-syncing and bogus frontmen doesn\\'t \\'re-program\\' your subconscious not to like a song. The dopamine release happens regardless. Same deal with MJ, Nightmare on Elm Street movies, etc., etc.

    Shoot, I still play their tracks from time to time. Yeah, they\\'re basically eighteen variations of an Ashley\\'s Roachclip breakbeat loop, but they are catchy. If the art is good, the art is good. The shenanigans of the artist objectively does not change the art.
    My fav MJ song was billy jean, that was a super catchy song, I wonder why they never made Freddy vs Jason 2, I'm still hoping they do.
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    Go to Lyhe Mheg there are lots of kids there
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    Love your neighbor as yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    There was also the windurst quests for the Star Onion Brigade which were a bunch of tarutaru children annoying a mithra. But it gave you accessories and eventually the title SOB Superhero.

    With all the stuff taken from other FF games. A Star Onion Brigade quest line would be fun, maybe for a seasonal event. We all need S.O.B. titles.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 09-14-2021 at 02:45 AM.

  6. #36
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    I find it very weird you don't hardly see any kids or kids with families. I hope one of these days they add them.
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