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  1. #181
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    Imora's Avatar
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    I don't actually know if FFXIV has feet rigged to bend at the toes (probably not?) but if it did animating "digitigrade" races to always be tiptoeing would've been a decent, if lazy, compromise. Wouldn't look very good with most footwear most likely, but it wouldn't require refitting every single one to an entirely new model
    Wow did it(hooved and wolf races), but TES stopped after Oblivion because flat feet are easier to make boots for. Everquest 2 also has feet like this.

    Wow gets around it by cutting boots off below the ankle on Draenei, Tauren and Worgen. Trolls particularly have "special" three toed feet that also don't fit in boots.

    In morrowind, beast races just couldn't wear boots. They could as lso just make them invisible.

    Options abound.
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  2. #182
    Player HollowedDoll's Avatar
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    Tomboy Outback
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Wow did it(hooved and wolf races), but TES stopped after Oblivion because flat feet are easier to make boots for. Everquest 2 also has feet like this.

    Wow gets around it by cutting boots off below the ankle on Draenei, Tauren and Worgen. Trolls particularly have "special" three toed feet that also don't fit in boots.

    In morrowind, beast races just couldn't wear boots. They could as lso just make them invisible.

    Options abound.
    Wow doesn't use the same body mesh for 90% races, or actual 3d armor ( sans the glued hot mess for some of the newer sets ) so kind of a moot point.
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  3. #183
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    ElciaDeiLinus's Avatar
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    Elcia Deilinus
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Wow did it(hooved and wolf races), but TES stopped after Oblivion because flat feet are easier to make boots for. Everquest 2 also has feet like this.

    Wow gets around it by cutting boots off below the ankle on Draenei, Tauren and Worgen. Trolls particularly have "special" three toed feet that also don't fit in boots.

    In morrowind, beast races just couldn't wear boots. They could as lso just make them invisible.

    Options abound.
    It's highly likely if they were given unusual feet, it'd mean no boots... which after how much backlash the bunny hats got them, I don't think they wanna face the same thing for boots.

    The character creation system they're using obviously has some limitations, that have made some things either impossible or far more difficult/time consuming (bunny hats, butt sliders to name some of the biggest issues the community has).

    If the choice is- normal feet, and normal boot options with little to no backlash- or put in considerable effort into making more complex feet and then getting a very angry community as your reward... well, it's fairly obvious what choice any developer would make.
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  4. #184
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    Itsgigglez's Avatar
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    Tau Val'rek
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElciaDeiLinus View Post
    It's highly likely if they were given unusual feet, it'd mean no boots... which after how much backlash the bunny hats got them, I don't think they wanna face the same thing for boots.
    Especially the 2b boots, people would riot if they couldn't wear those.
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    White mages are white because we're built of salt.

  5. #185
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    -JayJay-'s Avatar
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    Nowi Shipayu
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin- View Post
    Their faces weren't that bestial in the FFX.
    No they definitely looked bestial, they had distinctly feline facial features:


    Though they looked a lot more softer compared to the males' more rugged looking features.
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  6. #186
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    I still believe we're putting way too much stock in that concept art. Since we're going several pages on it: Remember the Au Ra concept art. Fool me once..

    We won't get beast feet. We can't even get bare human feet.
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  7. #187
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by -JayJay- View Post
    No they definitely looked bestial, they had distinctly feline facial features:


    Though they looked a lot more softer compared to the males' more rugged looking features.
    That surely wouldn't come out too differently to the sketched face in the concept art? It's really only the dark markings around the eyes (which might be makeup) that define the sides of the nose.
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  8. #188
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    MoofiaBossVal's Avatar
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ElciaDeiLinus View Post
    It's highly likely if they were given unusual feet, it'd mean no boots... which after how much backlash the bunny hats got them, I don't think they wanna face the same thing for boots.
    The fandom would accept it if the devs made it look good.

    Hooves are kind of a selling point. If you have hooves or clawed feet, you probably don't want to cover up it with some generic human looking boots. The key is that there just need to be enough visual customization to the feet. Even doing the bare minimum like FFXIV does and giving your 4 options to pick from would be good, so long as the feet were visually distinct.
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    Last edited by MoofiaBossVal; 09-11-2021 at 12:51 PM.

  9. #189
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    Senn's Avatar
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    Leone Noir
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    Red Mage Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It's really only the dark markings around the eyes (which might be makeup) that define the sides of the nose.
    I went ahead and edited out the dark markings just to see it.
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  10. #190
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Wait, such a commotion for a concept art that shows like 40% of the character sitting in a way that you can't even tell how the proportions are?

    About the face... As far as I'm concerned, most of the races get a "cute" option, and that is probably how it translated into that art style.
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