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    Chapter 21G … you say that HQ and NQ have the same spiritbond rate.

    When did that change? IIRC each Materia adds 20%(?) to the points gained towards Spiritbinding, and HQ adds another 20%(?). I am not positive about the 20% number but I do remember that HQ bonded faster than NQ, as though HQ status was another Materia melded to the item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    Chapter 21G … you say that HQ and NQ have the same spiritbond rate.

    When did that change? IIRC each Materia adds 20%(?) to the points gained towards Spiritbinding, and HQ adds another 20%(?). I am not positive about the 20% number but I do remember that HQ bonded faster than NQ, as though HQ status was another Materia melded to the item.
    Hi Roth! I so happy that you're reading my guide, and even picked up a part to question about it! I feel so honored to have it coming from someone of your caliber!
    From what I remember, HQ and NQ had always had the same spiritbonding rate since ARR. However, HQ has always had a higher % of overmeld success rate, and more overmelds obviously means faster spiritbonding rate. For the sake of science, I shall look into this in the next 24 hours (got work right now, but will do this as soon as I can), and determine the truth. Thank you for raising this question!
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 09-06-2021 at 02:14 PM.

    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    Chapter 21G … you say that HQ and NQ have the same spiritbond rate.

    When did that change? IIRC each Materia adds 20%(?) to the points gained towards Spiritbinding, and HQ adds another 20%(?). I am not positive about the 20% number but I do remember that HQ bonded faster than NQ, as though HQ status was another Materia melded to the item.
    I set up an experiment today. First, I crafted an Initiate's Gown HQ and a pair of Velveteen Chausses NQ. Both items are i24, and I melded 2 Cunning I materia on each of the items.
    I then Quicksyn 5 syntheses of Dew Thread, and then did 5 manual syntheses of HQ Dew Thread.
    My results showed that:
    - HQ gear spiritbond FASTER than NQ gear.
    - Crafting an HQ item by manually pushing quality will earn more spiritbonding than Quicksyn of the same item.

    The interesting thing is, HQ gear does NOT spiritbond 20% faster. But the NQ gear spiritbonds 20% slower!
    At low % spiritbond, it is not that obvious, but the effect can be seen more clearly at higher % of spiritbond:
    When HQ was at 5%, NQ was at 4%.
    When HQ was at 11%, NQ was at 9%.
    When HQ was at 12%, NQ was at 10%.
    When HQ was at 14%, NQ was at 11%. 14% * 80/100 = 11.2. But 11% * 120/100 = 13.2, which is not 14.
    When HQ was at 25%, NQ was at 20%. Once again, 25% * 80/100 = 20. But 20% * 120/100 = 24, which is not 25.

    So I was definitely wrong! I was probably thinking about how HQ and NQ gear having the same desyn rate, but somehow mixed my thoughts with spiritbond.
    I have amended this part of the guide now. Thanks very much for correcting me on this!
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino