Serious Question: New Mentor seeking community advice on dealing with bad players.

[Ranylyn]

Don't offer advice, ask if anyone wants help.
If no, you've done your job.
If they're looking for help and still stink, do your best and you've done your job.

I generally try to do that exact thing, actually. Ask if anyone needs help, not offer it if no one speaks up, and so on. Fortunately, I've never had BOTH someone who DID want advice AND someone who spoke up about wanting the blind experience in the same party, yet!

The problem is... more and more, lately, I've been seeing parties that... honestly... make me feel like *I'M* the problem, like "I'M the one carrying these people to the endgame! I'M the reason I see people who don't dodge easily avoidable AoEs in Post Shadowbringers trials like the Seat of Sacrifice, or the Cloud Deck!" And I just... it feels like I'm failing as a mentor. My advice goes in one ear and out the other and nothing ever changes and somehow those people make it to endgame without understanding the core fundamental mechanics. There has to be more I can do as a mentor, and I just don't know what. (Doesn't help that every time I poke my head into the Novice Network, several other mentors are too busy teaching people how to make a Healers Adjust Superbolide Removal macro to actually mentor. I stopped going to help out in there since memelord mentors are just making my job harder.)

I dunno, am I just stressing over nothing? Am I seeing a losing battle where it's not even my fight to fight? I admit I have a bad habit of getting too emotionally invested into my tasks, and taking things so seriously that hobbies become jobs. It can be hard for me to tell, sometimes.


In response to SturmChurro, regarding kicking, IIRC kicking someone for being a bad player is also against ToS, but you have a fair point. I'm always afraid to kick people but harassment is a kickable offense and their attitude was absolutely crossing into that. I'll try to be more mindful of it in the future, thanks!


EDIT: So just to clarify: Everyone messes up sometimes. I'm not going "One vuln stack is one bad player." I mean people who consistently just STAND in everything. People who have several seconds to move to safety just 5 steps away and just sit there, every time, without any kind of obvious lag tells. Just in case I wasn't clear.