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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Artemiz View Post
    So people aren't allowed to learn pulls now which even the biggest W2W advocates use as an example of a difficult pull?
    That isn't what I said. Your previous posts implied learning how to wall pull period not a specific pull itself. Hence why I said you shouldn't be learning how to do wall pulls at 71 but should already be practicing them by 50. Put simply if you're still uncomforting pulling more than a single pack in any higher level dungeon, you should go back to the easier ones or use Trusts for practice.
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    Artemiz's Avatar
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    Darwinian Origin
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    That isn't what I said. Your previous posts implied learning how to wall pull period not a specific pull itself. Hence why I said you shouldn't be learning how to do wall pulls at 71 but should already be practicing them by 50. Put simply if you're still uncomforting pulling more than a single pack in any higher level dungeon, you should go back to the easier ones or use Trusts for practice.
    Surely learning to W2W pull, especially in a leveling dungeons includes knowing what you're pulling. Is there anything I need to stun, what AoE patterns am I facing, when should I use my invulnerability, where should I make the camp, are there any ranged mobs, can I fit it all in my AoE radius. You need to know all of that and its pull specific. We can all cycle cooldowns but there is far more to being efficient with W2W pulling than that. So yes, people will still need to learn in 70+ dungeons.
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    Xirean Summit
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    For leveling dungeons, it's certainly "harder" to W2W pull. However for me that is part of the fun. If it's my first time in a dungeon as a tank then I will generally avoid W2W in leveling and try not to expect it from other new tanks. I will say though that some of the funnest pulls are in those situations and I get a lot of enjoyment from succeeding at them regardless of what role I'm in at the time.

    If a tank is going "too slow" for me I just say "Don't be afraid to do bigger pulls" but that's only when I know for a fact that I can keep them alive. If I'm a DPS I only ask for larger pulls in the scenarios where it's good to use a caster LB cause that shit is really fun.
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