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  1. #61
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    Vercinotrix's Avatar
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    Verina Terix
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    Most of WoW's problems came from hiring raiders to design the game.

    All of a sudden some epic heroic raider got lead developer and 60% of my buttons disappeared and all of a sudden there's 30 different systems I need to upkeep daily just to queue arena.
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  2. #62
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    Larek Darkholme
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    He should be CEO of the planet.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  3. #63
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    Dal S'ta
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    Such a long, meaningless, thread. Sooooooo......

    The number one reason that Asmongold will never be a consultant for Final Fantasy XIV: he does not speak Japanese.

    The number two reason that Asmongold will never be a consultant for Final Fantasy XIV: he would then become no more than a shill for the game.
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  4. #64
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    You're right I was just thinking, this game needs somebody in charge to tell players they're freaks because of the character they choose too play. /sarcasm
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  5. #65
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    why on earth do they need a stream?
    you want advisors, not internet mouthpieces
    Exactly. Streamers are entertainers, not game designers. Success in those two areas requires very different skillsets.

    Quote Originally Posted by AusarViled View Post
    Asmongold would be a great advisor, but he is still very old school WoW, we need someone with a large scope of experience. Here would be my recommendations

    1) 500 commendations as min
    2) cleared 90% of savage content
    3) has 1500 hours in game minimum
    4) has played GW2, Swtor, WoW, Rune scape 3, eve onlne, eso all min 500 hours. [to know what works vs does not]
    5) has min 3000 people watching them on stream [twitch or YouTube]
    The list that was presented here is very similar to the prerequisites for entry into the private feedback program that Blizzard implemented for WoW shortly before the game plummeted in popularity. Most players have not cleared any savage content, let alone 90% of it. Most FFXIV players don't stream. If you want a game with mass appeal, you need to design it with the sensibilities of the masses in mind. When you design a game exclusively for streamers and savage raiders, you wind up with the raid-or-die/M+ only dungeon systems that are driving refugees to this game en masse. Most players actually enjoy being able to farm their tomestones from Beast Tribe dailies and leveling roulettes. Most savage raiders don't. Many of us find the game more pleasant to play when you aren't required to eject players from your group based on their parses in order to make any kind of progress towards your BiS. Hearing YoshiP correctly acknowledge that incorporating ACT into the game would be a catalyst for bullying on a massive scale brings joy to my heart. In contrast, WoW added a rating system to their game to facilitate bullying. With the exception of the janky glamour system, I think this game is fine as-is.

    I'm happy that some enthusiastic players find joy in boosting their parses to inhuman levels. I don't feel that imposing that goal on the rest of us makes for a better game. Exclusively incorporating the feedback of the most enthusiastic players results in a game that only the most enthusiastic players can enjoy.
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    Last edited by Ronduwil; 09-01-2021 at 12:59 AM.

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vercinotrix View Post
    Most of WoW's problems came from hiring raiders to design the game.

    All of a sudden some epic heroic raider got lead developer and 60% of my buttons disappeared and all of a sudden there's 30 different systems I need to upkeep daily just to queue arena.
    Wait so then what’s the reason for 60% of my buttons disappearing in ShB? O.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Wait so then what’s the reason for 60% of my buttons disappearing in ShB? O.o
    people complaining things are too hard and there's too many things to press. Yes that actually was a complaint. I wish I was trolling :c
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  8. #68
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    Jin Wa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    There is a reason gamers don't make good game designers.
    Quite the opposite, games made by gamers > games made by suits
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  9. #69
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    Akio Foxx
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    Here’s a great idea lets kill FFXIV and make it Asmongold and friends’ magical playland. /sarcasm
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    He probably would do it for free. They really need his help especially since he's a long-time MMO veteran and has great insight into MMO design. He can help Square Enix see any potential blind spots in their new systems.
    They should hire me as an advisor.

    I'll take a wage, please.
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