Asmongold on NSFW mods

[Plushy]

It's really crazy and disheartening how people are trying to deceive and spin the narrative with dishonest arguments and crooked lines of reasoning.

Contrary to what people in this thread want you to believe, the problem isn't some arbitrary force trying to limit your 'freedom' or use of mods. It's about how the depiction of naked kids (including Lalafells) and engaging in ERP with minors shouldn't be allowed and should definitely not be encouraged by the community.

It doesn't matter whether or not the in-game models are 'real' or not. Pedophilia is a legit psychiatric disorder. The defense of 'but Lalafells are adults )' is superweak since their appearance will always be prepubescent.

Come on. What are we even doing here?

I disagree with lalafells. Though I find the thought of them naked disturbing, they don't look like kids and I don't know how anybody could think they do with their big ass heads, weird shaped bodies and non-natural looking human eye shape.
I like to think any sane person could tell the difference between them and a human looking kid.

Do people think dwarfs look like kids too? because they could probably look more like human children than lalafells can since they're bodies are not oddly shaped and they have normal shaped heads.

[BaconBits]

I'm still trying to figure out how this topic went from "nude mods and ERP bad" to rampant arguments about pedophilia and age of consent laws.

Then again, that seems to happen nearly every time the topic of mods come up. Like damn, just agree that people who make nude mods of any underaged characters are weirdos and leave it at that.

[Raasu]

The mods are something to be upset about since it normalizes sexualizing minors (i.e. pedophilia)...

Parents should be aware of what their kids are up to on the internet, sure. But also it's not entirely reasonable for parents to assume their kids are in real and constant danger of getting sexually harassed in a teen-rated adventure-themed game. There's also some responsibility for the community to draw a line of what should be acceptable and this definitely shouldn't be.

[Gothicshark]

gonna assume you didn't read what I was originally replying to and I didn't specify where they would move the servers. US isn't the only country in the world you know.
Either way, not gonna get into this topic as its getting weird.

The NA Servers are in California because SE has their NA headquarters in California, if they moved their servers out of California odds are they would keep them in the US as US business laws make it adventitious to do so. No reason for them to move SE's NA operation to Canada or Mexico. But Moving to Texas might be a thing. Also your comment is a bit rude, and assumes that someone is being biased towards a nation of 300milion people and one that covers a significate portion of the Continent in question. Esp when there are only 3 viable nations for international Business on that Continent. One of which has a small expensive population, and the other is a bit lawless at the best of times.

[Fourbestintoner]

The servers are in California because they had a good deal there, it was cheaper than moving them to a good location, zero care about our ping issues.

[Fukuro]

Oh? maybe they do have a fetish and enjoy it but would never act on it. Like who am I to know or care? The point I'm making is. If no victim has happen. We should not care. That is like the mothers getting upset over the IT books cause of that dumb one part of it. Or how about metal gear games when it has really messed up things with that one kid that ended up in sexual.


So you saying horror books are ok because it is not real murder right? Well this is not real also. So my point still stands. Murder is just as bad in my eyes. People get enjoyment out of watching people get murder. So should I judge them also?

no because as i‘ve stated again, people don‘t watch horror movies because they have a hidden urge to kill somebody. i’m pretty sure if it had such an effect on the human species, horror movies would be illegal by now. when you see somebody killed in a movie by a murderer your natural reaction is being scared, being fearful of it - you would feel bad for the person getting killed. on the other hand people that do lewd art of minors do because of a certrain reason. and no, watching lewd stuff of minors doesn‘t lessen the urge as data has shown, it does quite the contrary actually. i hate to bring this up but people with pedophilic behavior don‘t get treated by their psychologists with being feed with sinister material, animated, pixelated or not it doesn‘t matter.
there is a reason why lewd art is illegal and horror books are not. compring these two makes no sense as i‘ve stated above.
and please stop calling it a fetish but instead call it by it‘s name.


tldr
watching horror movies doesn‘t make someone a murderer. you watch it for a very different reasons.
people that do lewd art of minors do because of a sinister reason.

this is my last comment on this subject for the better of me. it‘s also really difficult to word things in english, since i‘m not a native speaker.
just respect the TOS, yoshi p himself is worried and this needs to be respected.

[Jadedsins]

no because as i‘ve stated again, people don‘t watch horror movies because they have a hidden urge to kill somebody. i’m pretty sure if it had such an effect on the human species, horror movies would be illegal by now. when you see somebody killed in a movie by a murderer your natural reaction is being scared, being fearful of it - you would feel bad for the person getting killed. on the other hand people that do lewd art of minors do because of a certrain reason. and no, watching lewd stuff of minors doesn‘t lessen the urge as data has shown, it does quite the contrary actually. i hate to bring this up but people with pedophilic behavior don‘t get treated by their psychologists with being feed with sinister material, animated, pixelated or not it doesn‘t matter.
there is a reason why lewd art is illegal and horror books are not. compring these two make no sense as i‘ve stated above.
and please stop calling it a fetish but instead call it by it‘s name.


tldr
watching horror movies doesn‘t make someone a murderer. you watch it for a very different reasons.
people that do lewd art of minors do because of a sinister reason.

this is my last comment on this subject for the better of me.
just respect the TOS, yoshi p himself is worried and this needs to be respected.

How do you know that? Are you saying someone who gets a sexual rise out of horror movies, and yes I know many who do. Fear can be used for passion as well, and I know a girl who loves to watch horror movies and be scared for that reason.

So are you saying making Ryne naked makes someone a pedo? Because that logic is strange since She is not real so is not a minor.


I'm not speaking on you are a murder if you enjoy horror movies. These people clearly enjoy seeing it with this mod. So does that make them a pedo? That is the same as what you are saying. Unless you ACT on it with a real person aka real person pictures/or whatever nasty thing you can think of. Your point would stand. Ryne is not real, so nothing to worry about. Just like them horror movies.


The line needs to be drawn at some place. I rather someone get kicks off something that is not real, than do it real. Just because they have that desire does not mean they are bad, if they act on that desire they would be. And if this helps them. Who am I to judge?


My husband has made me want to kill him, and It was PRETTY real at the time. Like my anger was that high, So because I felt that desire I'm now a murder? Know what I did? I went on sims 4 and killed a bunch of people in it. Oh noes i am a bad person.

[Awha]

no because as i‘ve stated again, people don‘t watch horror movies because they have a hidden urge to kill somebody. i’m pretty sure if it had such an effect on the human species, horror movies would be illegal by now. when you see somebody killed in a movie by a murderer your natural reaction is being scared, being fearful of it - you would feel bad for the person getting killed. on the other hand people that do lewd art of minors do because of a certrain reason. and no, watching lewd stuff of minors doesn‘t lessen the urge as data has shown, it does quite the contrary actually. i hate to bring this up but people with pedophilic behavior don‘t get treated by their psychologists with being feed with sinister material, animated, pixelated or not it doesn‘t matter.
there is a reason why lewd art is illegal and horror books are not. compring these two makes no sense as i‘ve stated above.
and please stop calling it a fetish but instead call it by it‘s name.


tldr
watching horror movies doesn‘t make someone a murderer. you watch it for a very different reasons.
people that do lewd art of minors do because of a sinister reason.

this is my last comment on this subject for the better of me. it‘s also really difficult to word things in english, since i‘m not a native speaker.
just respect the TOS, yoshi p himself is worried and this needs to be respected.

I do not feel bad for the person being killed in horror movies i often cheer the killer on. I laugh i enjoy seeing how the killer kills their victims in horror movies.

Does that make me a sick person? Also to be fair some Doctors do allow some to keep tbeir urges in check by using other forms of media like hentai. It is one of those conflicted methodologies when it comes to treating such behavior.

[JTF-Taru]

It's about how the depiction of naked kids (including Lalafells) and engaging in ERP with minors shouldn't be allowed and should definitely not be encouraged by the community.

Mods are not officially allowed by SE and grooming children is rightly against the law in most 1st World countries. So you already have that.

Although I don't presume to speak for everyone who plays FFXIV, I am very sure that generally speaking, 'the community' does not support these things.

You may get some individuals who do, but that will always happen in a large group of people.

The defense of 'but Lalafells are adults )' is superweak since their appearance will always be prepubescent.

If your kid looks like this, probably best to get them to a doctor pretty quickly...

Like damn, just agree that people who make nude mods of any underaged characters are weirdos and leave it at that.

We agree. No decent person would dispute that.

But decent people also don't blanket label those who play lalafells as paedophiles.

And most decent people with common sense know that the vast majority of role players, even ERPs don't want anything to do with children.

Again, blanket labelling huge numbers of people as weird or perverted who just want to enjoy fantasy role play with other consenting adults doesn't help.

A solution would be to create an adult only server (age verified) for role players but we know SE doesn't want to even publicly acknowledge this sort of thing goes on, lest it damages their brand.

So round and round we go, having the same circular arguments every time this sort of thread comes up.

[HollowedDoll]

Go back to twitter, please.