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  1. #11
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    kaynide's Avatar
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    OP, it's not harassment in of itself, but if they are bullying you, you can/should report that.

    1) The Market Board is a lot like the stock market. Or fight club. You don't talk about fight club. (or rather, you don't share/tip others on something that's making you money).
    2) Rename your retainers, and don't tell people who they are or what you sell in specifics. Keep anonymity.
    3) Don't put everything into 1 thing, and don't really trust items with a small amount on sale to keep their price.
    4) Consider consumables. Things like dye.
    5) You can also just buy stuff from NPCs nearby and resell for a profit. This takes a bit of homework, but it's more profitable than actual gathering in most cases. Something that's 10g from an NPC can easily be 1,000g on MB.
    6) Consider time efficiency:
    Scenario A
    -Teleport Fees: -1,000g (assuming several locales for mats; going with a round 1,000g for ease)
    -Time spent gathering everything: 50 min (searching google for location, travel time, etc)
    -Value of gathered mats on MB: 5,000g
    -Time spent crafting: 10 min
    -Final Product value on MB: 25,000g (I am assuming a price for like a bed or glamour or something)
    ——
    Total Profits: 24,000g/hour
    Scenario B
    -Buy the materials outright: -5,000g
    -Time spent crafting: 10 min
    -Final Product value on MB: 25,000g (I am assuming a price for like a bed or glamour or something)
    ——
    Total Profits: 120,000g/hour (if you made 6 sets to do the full hour)
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    Last edited by kaynide; 08-30-2021 at 01:42 PM.

  2. #12
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    Bsrking5's Avatar
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Nope, also don't mention things your selling on MB unless you want to be uncut. MB is all about uncutting and price wars. Try more broad range of items to sell from easy NPC to more valuable items. All npcs items list their sale prices so its just up to you to find them to resell them. You can also follow in demand items for quick profit. And whatever you do, don't forget to check the history.
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  3. #13
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Please don't advertise items you want to sell in chat. No one wants to see that. Can you imagine if every player did that?

    The other player who made a point to undercut you, probably only did it because they felt you deserved it for using /shout chat for hawking your wares. It sounds like they were being a petty, immature, vindictive jerk about it -- but I don't think what they did was against the rules either. If you're allowed to announce your sales, they are allowed to announce they will sell for cheaper. They are allowed to wave at you. They are allowed to respond to you. If they used offensive language or something of that nature, it might be a different story. But I don't think anything will come of reporting them. My advice is to just use the Market Board like everybody else and leave any chat channels out of the equation.
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  4. #14
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Famfrit
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    Paladin Lv 98
    No no no, don't listen to these other guys.

    If someone starts undercutting you for any reason, even if it's something that doesn't sell very often, you respond by finding literally any and every item their retainer is selling that might have been crafted by them, and violently undercut them in a fit of unfathomable rage. And the second you so much as catch a whiff of your item being sold, just immediately list an item back up, exactly 1 gil underneath their price. Rinse and repeat for months on end until they finally give up and leave the market board in shame. And when they do, send them a nice little /t saying "I knew you would give up eventually ".

    I'm totally not speaking from experience by the way, nope not at all.
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  5. #15
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    Lazy Maid
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Player A abuses lack of knowledge of players x y n z
    Player B abuses ego of player A
    Player A is poor victim
    Player B is a monster
    Players x y n z are ignored cos who cares about morality of player A.
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  6. #16
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    Deacon Moore
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 79
    So buy his 15 and resell at 100 if that's really the going rate. I don't see the problem.
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  7. #17
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    Kyuuen's Avatar
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    Kyuuen Queles
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    The most I can say is you can report them with what is given, but you'll never know if anything was done towards the person. SE operates from a punish and no tell approach.

    But as others have said, don't advertise what you have on the MB as it will only encourage others that might see said item up there and adjust accordingly to facilitate their sale over yours or put items up in hopes to cash in as well.
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  8. #18
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    DarmaniLink's Avatar
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    Yuki Tsukichi
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I don't have the gil for that and the items don't sell fast enough for me to consider that even if I did
    this was completely out of malice
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  9. #19
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Unfortunately, while it's not nice to taunt you over it, you don't know that he isn't intending to make money too. After all you said yourself these items cost 1k to make, so there's 9k profit per item for him.

    Best advice is never use /shout to advertise sales. Especially for an easy to make, low demand item with a 99k profit margin. You couldn't have picked a more fragile market, so you don't want other sellers realizing it. Crafting is in a tough spot right now regarding gil making, since everyone has a crafter this expansion and bots are rampant so supply has gone through the roof while demand has dropped. People are constantly searching for niche markets to squeeze profit from.

    I wouldn't bother reporting. Someone else would have crashed the price on an item like that within a week. Lesson learned, sorry to hear something like that happened and move on. Best of luck with future sales.
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  10. #20
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    Kranel_San's Avatar
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    Krann Starwarden
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DarmaniLink View Post
    I'm a new player. I've been leveling all my DoH/DoLs so I can be self sufficient. I don't run out and farm everything because I don't have time to play all week. This winds up getting very expensive.

    I find an item that I can craft for 1k and sell for 100k that's apparently used as a glamor item. I throw one one the mb and try selling another in shout chat. Someone else sees it and mentions undercutting me. I ask him not to because I'm trying to make up losses from leveling DoH stuff.

    He comes by and waves at me, I check the mb a bit later and he's flooded it with like 15 of that item for 10k/each.

    I don't consider undercutting harassment, but this is fully intentional to bother someone. [context in the conversation, not posting in full] Someone who's already established screwing over someone who's getting started and making it impossible for them to buy them out. These items sell less than 2 a day.
    As others mentioned. It's better to sell it on Marketboard without shouting to avoid getting unnecessary attention from unwanted ( excuse of.... ) players who have no life but have an unfortunate surplus of gil that would have been a lot better with literally any other player.
    And please if possible do show these types of players when possible how their behaviors and attitudes are... not welcomed here. Without harassing of course!
    As someone who sells in Marketboard every single day and deals with a lot of items. I know it's painful to wait for days or the duration of a week to sell some items. The purchase history should give you an insight on how long does it take to sell ( And the quantity as well ) so any item that does take a lot of time to sell with little to no value is not worth selling.
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