Does this constitute harassment?

[Breakbeat]

Player A abuses lack of knowledge of players x y n z
Player B abuses ego of player A
Player A is poor victim
Player B is a monster
Players x y n z are ignored cos who cares about morality of player A.

But what about players c, d, e, and f?

Player A abuses lack of knowledge of players c d e f x y n z
Player B abuses ego of player A and C
Player X talked smack about A and B
Player A C F Y are poor victims
Players N Z A B C E F went to get burgers
Player B is a monster
Player F is a helicopter
Player D was ignored, now isn't ignored
Players x y n z are ignored cos who cares about morality of player A
Player A and B now conspire against F, X, Y and D
Player D is sad
Players G K M and W want to know why they weren't included.

=P

[Rowde]

Lot of y'all not getting it... Undercutting, not harassment.

Announcing you're going to undercut, aggressively undercutting with multiple items, then finding the person to gloat about it... that's harassment.

Like if the person that undercut saw OP's shout, was curious about it, checked MB, had any number of thoughts about why they're going to aggressively undercut to themselves and just did it and afterwards went about their day without tracking down the OP to gloat... then no harassment occurs. Even if in their heart of hearts and secret thoughts of their minds eye they're doing it to teach the OP "a lesson" about shouting.


Like I can't accurately recall how many times I've been Rescue'd to my death anymore... but I acknowledge that most of those times were probably mistakes, even if no apology was explicitly typed in chat afterward. Except for two instances I did report for griefing: One, because the healer Rescue'd me into AoE zones multiple times through the course of the duty and did /chuckle or /laugh in chat log each time and Two, because the healer used rescue as they actively jumped off the side of the arena while no mechanics were occurring, which then dragged me with them.

It's that extra oomph that pushes it on over into harassment territory. So as long things actually played out they way OP claims, then I think they can and should report the incident. And again, like I mentioned in my earlier post, and has been mentioned by others, SE doesn't tell you the results. You file a report mostly for your own peace of mind and move on with your day.

[BaconBits]

Yeah, I found the person that undercut me on some random item that wasn't even selling well. Yeah, I found nearly every item they were selling and undercut them for months on end. Yeah, I bullied them off the market board.

And I'll friggin do it again.

[Mika_Zahard]

Undercut all the undercutters. Lets hold hands all the way down the bottom.

[MaLTRaiN]

Your mistake. You shouldn't try to sell an item on the chat. The chat isn't for that.
The other player? Two things. One, he was angry for your ad and gave you a lesson. Two, he could be balancing the price because he thinks you're taking advantage from the people.
If you spend only 1k for the item, just move on and keep crafting and selling.
I'm a crafter too, sell for big profits too and undercuts happens all the time.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose... you don't cry over business.

[Packetdancer]

Your mistake. You shouldn't try to sell an item on the chat. The chat isn't for that.
The other player? Two things. One, he was angry for your ad and gave you a lesson. Two, he could be balancing the price because he thinks you're taking advantage from the people.

I think shouting an advertisement was a bad idea, and as a crafter who plays the marketboard I fully expect that I'll get undercut on stuff.

But I also think tracking the OP down to taunt them about the undercutting is where it went from "typical marketboard shenanigans" to "this probably counts as harassment".

[Conundrum]

Anyone else really want to k own what he was selling?

[Psytic]

I'm a new player. I've been leveling all my DoH/DoLs so I can be self sufficient. I don't run out and farm everything because I don't have time to play all week. This winds up getting very expensive.

I find an item that I can craft for 1k and sell for 100k that's apparently used as a glamor item. I throw one one the mb and try selling another in shout chat. Someone else sees it and mentions undercutting me. I ask him not to because I'm trying to make up losses from leveling DoH stuff.

He comes by and waves at me, I check the mb a bit later and he's flooded it with like 15 of that item for 10k/each.

I don't consider undercutting harassment, but this is fully intentional to bother someone. [context in the conversation, not posting in full] Someone who's already established screwing over someone who's getting started and making it impossible for them to buy them out. These items sell less than 2 a day.

Its a a hole thing but its a free market economy. Example Sony announces they are selling head phones for 300 bucks. A Company in China makes a cheap knock off and sells it for 50 bucks on Amazon. Sony is mad about it but what can they do? It's the same thing you're going to get undercut. You can't really provide a higher quality item than HQ and you can't provide better customer service in a video game. All you can do is keep your mouth shut in chat and cancel sell anyone under cutting you.

[Almagnus1]

I don't have the gil for that and the items don't sell fast enough for me to consider that even if I did
this was completely out of malice

When I want to make bank on an item... I'm going to be throwing up like 5-10 of an item, and do it at once. If that's what you're seeing, then you shot yourself in the foot by shouting about it.

[Artemiz]

I'm a new player. I've been leveling all my DoH/DoLs so I can be self sufficient. I don't run out and farm everything because I don't have time to play all week. This winds up getting very expensive.

I find an item that I can craft for 1k and sell for 100k that's apparently used as a glamor item. I throw one one the mb and try selling another in shout chat. Someone else sees it and mentions undercutting me. I ask him not to because I'm trying to make up losses from leveling DoH stuff.

He comes by and waves at me, I check the mb a bit later and he's flooded it with like 15 of that item for 10k/each.

I don't consider undercutting harassment, but this is fully intentional to bother someone. [context in the conversation, not posting in full] Someone who's already established screwing over someone who's getting started and making it impossible for them to buy them out. These items sell less than 2 a day.

He sounds like an idiot but one thing I would say, if you find an item with a mark up like that, keep very quiet about it and just make the money. As soon as word gets out the market would be flooded with them and the price will tank anyway.