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    I find using the minors for some moral issues to be silly. For one, it is the parents jobs to teach kids right and wrong. What to do and not. So them even being online in a social settings. Second off kids keep doing this sort of thing at a younger and younger age, even when I was growing up. My best friend in middle school was active in this way. My view point is. Better for them to get kicks off in a fantasy than have life ruined.


    Point is the game is rated T for sexual themes, and all that stuff and teens are sexual. It can't be helped. It is not the community job to care about bad parenting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    I find using the minors for some moral issues to be silly. For one, it is the parents jobs to teach kids right and wrong. What to do and not. So them even being online in a social settings. Second off kids keep doing this sort of thing at a younger and younger age, even when I was growing up. My best friend in middle school was active in this way. My view point is. Better for them to get kicks off in a fantasy than have life ruined.


    Point is the game is rated T for sexual themes, and all that stuff and teens are sexual. It can't be helped. It is not the community job to care about bad parenting.
    That is a disgusting take. No adult should think it should be okay. None. If the very idea of not knowing if the person you are interacting with is a minor does not make your skin crawl, something is seriously wrong with you. Also you aren't even acknowledging that people are using SE's game to depict minors in a NSFW manner. That is illegal in many countries and highly immoral.

    Sexual themes is not the same thing as lewd mods or approaching minors for ERP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    That is a disgusting take. No adult should think it should be okay. None. If the very idea of not knowing if the person you are interacting with is a minor does not make your skin crawl, something is seriously wrong with you. Also you aren't even acknowledging that people are using SE's game to depict minors in a NSFW manner. That is illegal in many countries and highly immoral.

    Sexual themes is not the same thing as lewd mods or approaching minors for ERP.

    Well than parents should not have kids playing game. My take is more reasonable. If a parents job to teach kids about bad people about grooming and things. But either way the "naked" body is normal and natural. Western culture still is silly. They are ok with horror, murder, and other things in games, but a naked body? PROTECT THE KIDS!

    And people talking about laws, online games are pretty protected from things like this. They can easily just say that it was not made by them, and that it is against the rules. They don't got to enforce the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Well than parents should not have kids playing game. My take is more reasonable. If a parents job to teach kids about bad people about grooming and things. But either way the "naked" body is normal and natural. Western culture still is silly. They are ok with horror, murder, and other things in games, but a naked body? PROTECT THE KIDS!

    And people talking about laws, online games are pretty protected from things like this. They can easily just say that it was not made by them, and that it is against the rules. They don't got to enforce the rules.
    I think they do have to enforce it. But they have to go about it in a way where its shown they did a fair investigation. With stuff like mods, its very hard to pin down people.
    As with yoshi said, they can't install some spyware on your pc. That'll be illegal.
    Since mods are client side.
    Like the only way for SE to detect mods if they do a file check everytime we log in. Like other games do with anticheat but people HATE those because a lot of them are borderline malware that live in your pc as a virus that can take info from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedsins View Post
    Well than parents should not have kids playing game. My take is more reasonable. If a parents job to teach kids about bad people about grooming and things. But either way the "naked" body is normal and natural. Western culture still is silly. They are ok with horror, murder, and other things in games, but a naked body? PROTECT THE KIDS!

    And people talking about laws, online games are pretty protected from things like this. They can easily just say that it was not made by them, and that it is against the rules. They don't got to enforce the rules.
    It's not. Stop blaming the parents over the actions of others. It's not the kids fault nor the parents fault. The kid is just playing an adventure video/pc game. The main focus of this thread is not even that. Also the idea of you thinking it is okay that a child sees nude 'art' is a red flag.

    You obviously also don't know laws. Depictions of minors in a NSFW manner is illegal in most countries. I clearly pointed out the differences, and you refuse to acknowledge them. There is nothing reasonable about pretending it's okay to do these things. Gaming companies don't have any magical protection there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    That is a disgusting take. No adult should think it should be okay. None. If the very idea of not knowing if the person you are interacting with is a minor does not make your skin crawl, something is seriously wrong with you. Also you aren't even acknowledging that people are using SE's game to depict minors in a NSFW manner. That is illegal in many countries and highly immoral.

    Sexual themes is not the same thing as lewd mods or approaching minors for ERP.
    LOL is this your first MMO? Why do people like you even use the internet.

    Also, whether or not 'this or that' is illegal in a country should have no bearing on the modding community. People will create nsfw 3D content of a game regardless of whether or not it's in client. DO YOU HONESTLY think a country's government cares (or knows) which this is occuring on? Get over yourself.

    If you don't like it- get off twitter or turn parental settings on, social media does a well enough job censoring adult content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraanthe View Post
    LOL is this your first MMO? Why do people like you even use the internet.

    Also, whether or not 'this or that' is illegal in a country should have no bearing on the modding community. People will create nsfw 3D content of a game regardless of whether or not it's in client. DO YOU HONESTLY think a country's government cares (or knows) which this is occuring on? Get over yourself.

    If you don't like it- get off twitter or turn parental settings on, social media does a well enough job censoring adult content.
    What are you even going on about? How old are you exactly?

    Do you understand the concept morality and laws? It's not about what I personally see. Maybe you should listen to someone that is educated in this area, since you clearly don't have any idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    Shockingly enough, people who can't maintain IRL relationships and have to turn to virtual ERP for gratification tend to have, on average, worse social skills than the general population.

    Looking well foreword to the next crackdown that comes when Asmon's video reaches SE. R.I.P C(gr)oomers
    Being antisocial is does not make it fair to generalize. Please can we stop trying to lump the bad apples within everyone that falls under certain umbrella. Sure many to fall under the antisocial oe socially awkward crowd but it is damaging to use such language that marks them under the same roof so to speak.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    What are you even going on about? How old are you exactly?

    Do you understand the concept morality and laws? It's not about what I personally see. Maybe you should listen to someone that is educated in this area, since you clearly don't have any idea.
    Morality is subjective and laws differing from place to place and level of enforcement also differs.

    Also in terms of philosophical laws and rules for some are just suggestive principles to live by one is free to make a choice to live by them or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post

    Morality is subjective and laws differing from place to place and level of enforcement also differs.

    Also in terms of philosophical laws and rules for some are just suggestive principles to live by one is free to make a choice to live by them or not.
    The morality of pedophilia is subjective to you? Good to know you feel that way. It's one of the very few agreed upon things by an overwhelming majority of people on the planet. That's why there are laws across many countries. Like murder and rape, it's not cool. Gotta love these people that think something like that is subjective. We aren't talking about a traffic law, smoking pot, owning a gun, or gay marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    The real Problem for me is that most people just think: "he wants to E-RP" when you mention RP in any form or shape. It is the same thing with Ultimates. Every time someone speaks of Ultimates, many people just ask themselves of how much they payed for the carry since so many pay for the Title/Weapon.
    Same goes for ranked feast. Some people assume it's a bought or win traded top 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsolen View Post
    The morality of pedophilia is subjective to you? Good to know you feel that way. It's one of the very few agreed upon things by an overwhelming majority of people on the planet. That's why there are laws across many countries. Like murder and rape, it's not cool. Gotta love these people that think something like that is subjective. We aren't talking about a traffic law, smoking pot, owning a gun, or gay marriage.



    Same goes for ranked feast. Some people assume it's a bought or win traded top 100.
    Fact remains morality is subjective it differs from person to person culture to culture.

    Also laws are just suggestions we have the choice to abide by them or not. Just a matter of if a person is willing to live with the consequences.

    Not sure what I said was wrong are you going to tell me that you really think it is a universal truth or an objective truth?

    Maybe you do not understand the concept of morals or laws.
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