Why did the Ascians never try to do these?

[Anonymoose]

In a recent interview we are told a primal can control how much and what kind of tempering they do. It’s highly likely Zodiark’s tempering is very minuscule in that regards.

Emet-Selch's explanation seems to be that Zodiark didn't deliberately temper them after-the-fact at all. It was being brought into symbiosis with his energy during the summoning that bound them to his will and made him their one true god, due to the creation of a connection between themselves and the unprecedented psychic weight of the thing they were summoning. "It was unavoidable."

Using the French phrasing here just because it's so explicit.

Tu n'aurais tout de même pas également oublié que lorsque les hommes-bêtes invoquent leurs Primordiaux des temps modernes, ils entrent en symbiose avec leur énergie et deviennent des “subjugués”, hein? Rassure-moi, tu commences à me faire peur! Eh bien, figure-toi que le processus est exactement le même pour nous. Pour faire simple, celui qui croit pouvoir résister à l'influence psychique d'un être aussi démesurément puissant ne peut qu'être lourdement déçu. C'est ainsi que les Asciens sont devenus les courroies de transmission de l'énergie de Zordiarche, mon jeune ami! Notre existence n'a qu'un seul but: amplifier et étendre la part de Ténèbres dans l'univers tout entier.

Surely you would not have forgotten that when the beastmen summon their primals in the modern day, they enter into a symbiosis with their energy and become "subjugated" (tempered)... Right? Reassure me, here, you're starting to scare me! Well, the process was exactly the same for us. To put it simply, anyone who believes they can resist the psychic influence of such a disproportionately powerful being will be sorely disappointed! This is how the Ascians became the conveyor belts of Zordiarch's energy, my little friend. Our existence has but one purpose: to amplify and expand His Darkness through the entire universe.

[KizuyaKatogami]

The real question we should be asking is, why didn’t Emet just kill Graha to obtain his memories on time travel, since we know ascians get their hosts memories. But that’s merely plot armor so

[EaraGrace]

The real question we should be asking is, why didn’t Emet just kill Graha to obtain his memories on time travel, since we know ascians get their hosts memories. But that’s merely plot armor so

He’d be sorely disappointed then, as Graha despite being at the center of all that time and world travel is probably the person whose closest to it while not knowing how exactly it works. I doubt the Ironworks inheritors taught him the ins and outs of it, especially not enough to replicate it.

If anything, given Emets role in the Allagan Empire, he probably already knows as much as much the Exarch just from observation (though that’s not a dig against Graha this stuff is more than likely absurdly complicated).

[RyuDragnier]

He’d be sorely disappointed then, as Graha despite being at the center of all that time and world travel is probably the person whose closest to it while not knowing how exactly it works. I doubt the Ironworks inheritors taught him the ins and outs of it, especially not enough to replicate it.

If anything, given Emets role in the Allagan Empire, he probably already knows as much as much the Exarch just from observation (though that’s not a dig against Graha this stuff is more than likely absurdly complicated).

Not to mention they can't exactly take over people who have the Echo, and it's likely that Emet is fully aware of what the Crystal Tower is made of. So he knows full well what could happen if he even tried to take over G'raha. His best bet was merely to keep G'raha alive and slowly get the info out of him over time.