The Forgotten WoLs

[Elladie]

So everyone 'forgot' the Warriors of Light (as they called them) who died at Carteneau.

Does anyone have any theories as to how widespread this memory loss was? I've always presumed it was somehow connected to the bright light - the vast flood of aether? - that is all anyone can remember, but in my head that's always implied it had to be localised. Within a few malms of the Battle at any rate. But obviously everyone in Eorzea seems to have 'forgotten' (by forgotten, I mean that names and faces are gone, but folk still know the WoLs existed) so that makes it more widespread. Is it more widespread even than that? Worldwide?

Of course it's not canon that the current WoL was at Carteneau (is it canon?) but if they were, no one does remember them (except Minfilia and Cid). Gaius doesn't remember them. Ifrit and Garuda don't remember them (although how much primals recall of previous incarnations is a whole other question). If they are Auri, say, or Viera, do their families who were (possibly) not in Eorzea remember them?

Also what did cause the memory loss. Was it the surfeit of aether raised by Bahamut and Louisoix? Or something else?

[Anonymoose]

The explanations for this ebbed and flowed with need at the time, as the real reason was just "it'll be easier for everyone if the NPCs talk the same about 1.0 players and new players at least 95%of the time," lol. Eorzeans sometimes try to make sense of it as general "aetheric distrubance" and players sometimes try to work the Rejoining itself into it, but I've never really tried to reach deeper into the unknown aetherometaphysics of it because the magicks Louisoix wrought replicated the supposed powers of Althyk, the god of time and space. That alone seems like a set-up for "if you rip someone out their place in time and space with no plan for where they go or how to put them back, it might have unforeseen effects" like that.

Though now that you mention it watching Banri Oda-san try to weave an explanation for precisely why people forgot things when Louisoix messed with spacetime but not when a certain Exarch did it would probably make for some entertainment.

[RyuDragnier]

Though now that you mention it watching Banri Oda-san try to weave an explanation for precisely why people forgot things when Louisoix messed with spacetime but not when a certain Exarch did it would probably make for some entertainment.

Banri Oda-san: "Alexander" *drops mic*

[Anonymoose]

Banri Oda-san: "Alexander" *drops mic*

Ahaha, that does sound like him.

"Alexander and Omega are capable of precise calculations and predictions which lessen the risk of aetherotemporal mnemenic disturbance. Louisoix was one dude just winging it in the moment. It's amazing it even worked for him, to be honest."

[Rannie]

Hmmm that actually reminds me of something with us 1.0 legacy players after we meet up with Gaius again (after we defeat him at the praetoreum that is) does he mention at anytime the first times we came up against him in 1.0? I mean I know the first time was pretty much inconsequential to him, but after we fought Van Darnus he goes out of his way to come speak to us while we were running around praying at the stones for each of the 12... I can't seem to remember if he did or not, I know they go out of their way for us at the end of 2.0 with all the GC leaders and Scions remembering....

[Catapult]

"It's amazing it even worked for him, to be honest."

Alternatively, perhaps it only worked for Louisoix because it was guided by his primal power of rebirth, and that same power of rebirth's guidance biases towards things starting over from the beginning.

[Veloran]

Given the amnesia didn't seem to affect Minfilia in particular, and that it appears Hydaelyn is the one who undoes it for everyone else, I would assume that she also was the one who did it to begin with.

[Iscah]

Ahaha, that does sound like him.

"Alexander and Omega are capable of precise calculations and predictions which lessen the risk of aetherotemporal mnemenic disturbance. Louisoix was one dude just winging it in the moment. It's amazing it even worked for him, to be honest."

Sounds like a perfectly legitimate argument to me.

[RyuDragnier]

Given the amnesia didn't seem to affect Minfilia in particular, and that it appears Hydaelyn is the one who undoes it for everyone else, I would assume that she also was the one who did it to begin with.

I believe she originally did it to protect our identity from the Ascians and the Garleans who may try to bumrush us the second they realized we were back. Do you (general question, not directed at you) really think Gaius would want the one who killed Nael (even though he wanted Nael dead) running around knowing full well how powerful they were and how easily they could get in the way of conquest? Or that Lahabrea wouldn't immediately try to get rid of one of Hydaelyn's champions before they were strong enough to fight back?

[ICountFrom0]

Ahaha, that does sound like him.

"Alexander and Omega are capable of precise calculations and predictions which lessen the risk of aetherotemporal mnemenic disturbance. Louisoix was one dude just winging it in the moment. It's amazing it even worked for him, to be honest."

Well... he wasn't just "one dude" at that moment, he'd consumed enough aether to make himself into a very specific primal.... one that was just timeless enough to pull it off.