Ableism and elitism from the hardcore community is damaging FF14

[Ativan]

Oh good lord.



Being bad at the game ≠ being disabled. 99.99% of the time these people are a) uninformed about mechanics, b) lazy, or c) inattentive or distracted. It's pathetic that you'd attempt to draw a line between ableism and criticism over those who are willfully unskilled.

You do realize that people who are visually impaired, people who have anxiety, people who have less dexterous fingers, are playing this game too? If you think someone is willfully disabled, that says much more about you than about them.

[nebby00]

Don't respond seriously to this thread, it's another bait topic by a known forum troll. It is entertaining to see their alts (or people who talk just like them and have an exact same job spread) pop up to talk to each other though.

Fair enough, it's probably better off that I just sit back and watch this. Judging by his reply alone I could tell, discussing anything with him is going to get me nowhere lmao

[Ativan]

Demonstrating your lack of understanding of what empathy actually is doesn't grant you any credibility. The person you responded to appears to have quite accurately found the base point in your oversized post and made it apparent they have no sympathy for you and your supposed argument.

No one here is responding to any of my argument because they know the moment they read it, they'll realize they were the evil.

[Ativan]

Then you quote things like this:

"I don't mind a few mounts being inaccessible to all players. There should always be some mounts or glamours that people can only get by clearing the hardest raids/content in the game."

With your attitude, that content is not for you. That isn't elitism.

Yes it is. Wanting items to be inaccessible to casual players is the very definition of elitism.

[TeraRamis]

You do realize that people who are visually impaired, people who have anxiety, people who have less dexterous fingers, are playing this game too? If you think someone is willfully disabled, that says much more about you than about them.

Yerp. And that's definitely what I said. Perhaps, while we're on the subject of disorders, you should learn to read.

[Wolwosh]

Try not being so overly dramatic

[Rinhi]

Wow, he's just having conversations with himself among like 5 accounts in 1 thread, that's new.

it's multiple people behind those accounts, though they're most likely sharing them
I'm guessing they're doing RMT stuff with these accounts

[Catwho]

The game does its best to be accessible. I have a bad wrist. I play without a mouse in battle, using the FFXI keyboard layout, and I've cleared Savage raids despite this handicap.

Mental disabilities impact gameplay differently, but Savage raids are high stress by design, and it's incredibly important to be with a friendly static of people you know and trust if you struggle with learning difficult raid tiers.

Final note: The small number of people who post here on the official forums are a fraction of the player base of the NA community. I daresay the main Reddit subs have more subscribers. So while there's a whole lot of ugly comments happening on these forums (and trolls, and people accusing others of being trolls), it's in no way representative of the majority of casual players, who log on and do their own thing, say gg and thanks for the party, and log off without every saying an unkind thing.

[Arillyn]

Wow, he's just having conversations with himself among like 5 accounts in 1 thread, that's new.

OMG I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this!

[Vahlnir]

This has to be a bait post…right?

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...le-permanently

There's always a resurgence of a few specific accounts when TitanMen returns. There's nothing to see here, people. I'd advise taking a break from the forums for a few days until he gets bored and moves on again.