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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Lets be honest. We all know the reason is that it pads playtime and drives monthly subscriptions.
    Even if they only stay for the first week, the subscription lasts a month so it doesn't change a whole lot. Spreading it out has a lot to do with there being enough good players to carry the casuals.

    DR is a great example. You see the criticism about it taking 15 runs for each relic but because the people doing all relics are not casuals, this caused there to be some good players to carry the casuals without essences who just do one relic.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    DR is a great example. You see the criticism about it taking 15 runs for each relic but because the people doing all relics are not casuals, this caused there to be some good players to carry the casuals without essences who just do one relic.
    That works regardless of how many runs are required. If it only took one run per relic then the people doing all 17 relics are still carrying the people who only do one.

    Also I don't think being a "hardcore collector who does all the relics" has any bearing on whether they're a skilled player.
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    Liam Harper
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    Poetics are a poor example tbh because anything you can buy with them is largely irrelevant. Who cares if you can buy 10 old alt sets? Even the stuff they add with patches, like Relic re-rolls aren't much advantage if you can buy a big stack on release day and Grade VI materia was overpriced and hardly worth it from release. Poetics could easily be bumped to 20000 or more.

    Scrips, current tomes and Hunt nuts make sense since they keep adding patch relevant items to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    DR is a great example. You see the criticism about it taking 15 runs for each relic but because the people doing all relics are not casuals, this caused there to be some good players to carry the casuals without essences who just do one relic.
    No, most of the good players went to PF speed run groups.

    I can't speak for others, but I'm tired of the expectation that as an experienced player I'm supposed to pay a sub every month to carry players who can't be bothered for no thanks or benefit, while harder endgame content is either cut or outright denied to us. Hell no. Casuals can enjoy their 1 hour DR's if they don't want to buy Essences.
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