50-minute The Tower at Paradigm Breach runs...

[BaconBits]

Yeah okay, I'll believe all that when healer gameplay gets fixed, unless you think the JP side of the community was begging SE to give healers the mind breakingly dull dps loop of apply dot < spam nuke < reapply dot.

[Wavaryen]

Yeah okay, I'll believe all that when healer gameplay gets fixed, unless you think the JP side of the community was begging SE to give healers the mind breakingly dull dps loop of apply dot < spam nuke < reapply dot.

Maybe? I will have to ask her. But what you find mind numbing others might enjoy. A simple dps rotation could be fun for many players who rather be healing anyway.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

My FC member was running Orbonne for glamour.. he had a 70minute run full of wipes and low dps. He was miserable. But! It happens.. He should have asked our fc to unsync and he would not need to suffer so long rofl. First timers, new players and straight up lazy feeling people will be in these places.. it is what it is.

[Zsolen]

You can help new players, and if someone is new or seems to not understand what to do, people should be explaining the biggest mechanics of each fight as well as where each party should stand. People no longer seem to do that. Someone can be doing something for the second or third time and have no clue still or have long forgotten. So if you wipe, take note of what mistakes people were making and explain.

Lazy people, you either carry them, kick them, disband, or leave. No education will change them, and they consider that toxic anyway.

[TTiscancer]

Yeah okay, I'll believe all that when healer gameplay gets fixed, unless you think the JP side of the community was begging SE to give healers the mind breakingly dull dps loop of apply dot < spam nuke < reapply dot.

Yet the majority of healers can't even do that.

[BaconBits]

Yet the majority of healers can't even do that.

That's what really kills me to be honest. SE can keep dumbing down healer gameplay all they want, that isn't gonna stop Suzie McCurebot from spamming Medica 2/Aspected Helios nonstop while simultaneously ignoring any dps skills and off global heals they have.

If they catered to the DPS crowd that wants literal one button rotations, the kind of people that spam Hakaze or try to chain uncomboed Chaos Thrusts into Coerthan Torment, this entire forum would be on fire.

[Imora]

Maybe they just wanted to relax? Getting a bad group, is not the end of the world. It is not like your time has that much value if you are playing an mmorpg. I see nothing wrong here.

Every group I get is bad because people don't so much as pay attention to people detailing mechanics.

It's so bad I stopped running AR roulette. Only did copied factory for the 2b set.

[MiaShino]

Save yourself much pain and suffering and queue only with trusted friends and family where thee can.

Orrrrrrr if you do not mind high ping make character on JP server. Be certain to understand a minimum of Japanese before you do this though! You will encounter much much less of this type of behavior there. Formal speak is less common and there will be use of "slang" sooo well, consider this too I suppose.

I am thinking of doing this myself for times when family cannot join me. Also JP is less likely to voice opinions on healers being boring beyond no longer playing them. Not playing them will tell the developers all they require to know and Square will either adjust or not. Unsure where the whole healers heal thing even comes from... I asked my Uncle with decades of mmo experience and was told this is not a thing in any other mmo. Instead I was informed if you have a skill you use the skill when appropriate. Makes sense to this Mia!

[TTiscancer]

That's what really kills me to be honest. SE can keep dumbing down healer gameplay all they want, that isn't gonna stop Suzie McCurebot from spamming Medica 2/Aspected Helios nonstop while simultaneously ignoring any dps skills and off global heals they have.

If they catered to the DPS crowd that wants literal one button rotations, the kind of people that spam Hakaze or try to chain uncomboed Chaos Thrusts into Coerthan Torment, this entire forum would be on fire.

Ehh, I play healer when I want to take it easy. Healing is so easy in this game the moment you realize that you can't heal stupid.

[Wolwosh]

Or how about this. Build a social network and stop expecting pugs to have a standard. Unless you make the group or the group is made by players that set the ground rules. The game made the group for you, and set no standards on how players play.



The risks of getting a bad group counters the convenience of how easy it is to make groups. Expecting people to have the same standards as you in a pug group is foolish. They can play how they want, and if they get kicked. Will easily find another group.


You have tools to counter them. They don't got to try, or even play the fullest. Just because they are grouping does not mean they got to respect anyone. You all just using each other for progression, it is not like you are friends, or should care about each others fun. Because maybe them trying is not fun for them. And you running over the fun they having. Just like them being lazy is running over yours. That is the price of pugging, and I think it adds spice to the game.

Oh yeah sure should I make a static to run Expert and the Nier alliances? xD
I don't think epecting Tanks to CD or DPS to AOE on big pulls or have read their tooltips at 80 is a lot to ask for, like geez...
How about this stop expecting to get carried, and don't be surprised to get kicked after people ask you several times to AOE etc.
What about my fun?
We're not all willing to tank our standards because you don't have any