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  1. #31
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    Almagnus1's Avatar
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    Sorry, but that's not correct. Those who have more than one personal house (and were grandfathered in) have always been able to use relocate on any/all of their houses. From the 4.2 patch notes:
    Eh, it's been a while, not surprised stuff got misremembered....
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  2. #32
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Eh, it's been a while, not surprised stuff got misremembered....
    I agree with you there and have to constantly recheck information! It'd be nice if all the updates were in one place (and correct), but that's hoping for too much!

    It doesn't help when there's still errors in things like the 2.1 patch notes that say things like "From patch 2.2 onward, a free company will automatically relinquish its land if its estate is unused for a prolonged period of time", but that was actually added until 3.1 which was 20 months after 2.2 came out (2.2 = March 2014, 3.1 = November 2015). It's technically correct now, but the timing is still wrong and confusing to anyone who reads it now.
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  3. #33
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    Lucinda Blossom
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    IMO it feels like, "The grass is always greener," type of situation. No one wants to sit around and click for an unknown number of hours to try and get a plot. So the lottery is a huge win in that regard. Nonetheless, it's all fun and games until the odds of getting a plot (even shoddy ones in the Goblet) feels similar to that of winning 1st prize on the jumbo cactpot!
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  4. #34
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucinda View Post
    IMO it feels like, "The grass is always greener," type of situation. No one wants to sit around and click for an unknown number of hours to try and get a plot. So the lottery is a huge win in that regard. Nonetheless, it's all fun and games until the odds of getting a plot (even shoddy ones in the Goblet) feels similar to that of winning 1st prize on the jumbo cactpot!
    Exactly. Camping a placard is bad now. But at least the competition is only every other character who's clicking as well.

    Lottery makes the possible competition become every player and their aldgoat on the server.

    In 3+ years the highest prize I got in Jumbo Cactpot was 3rd place and that was once. I don't think I'll ever see first prize.
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  5. #35
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    Maley Oakensage
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    In some warped way, I find the situation a little humorous because (like most things on a gaming forum) something is either the worst abomination to come along since Zodiark.... or it's the best thing since Hydalaen... and rarely is anything at some middle ground.

    Personally, I think this is going to prove the memes true on release, but once there's been enough supply introduced this is going to largely be a wash.
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  6. #36
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    One house per account per server.

    One ticket per account per server.

    Fixed. Also, no ticketing for specific plots. You want a small, get a ticket for a small, get a random plot.

    Problem fixed. Oh, and disable relocation in lottery wards. Relinquish the house and automatically put it back in the lottery.

    Can't really flip lottery houses this way as there's no guarantee you'll get the lottery for it.

    I'm curious as to how it's going to work, but more Gil should NOT buy you more chances to get a house.
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  7. #37
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Somehow I doubt it will have that wishlist. Not like they butch these things before.
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  8. #38
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    Kina Kiba
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    The problem won't be better or worse.
    It'll just be different.
    The core problem is that there are too few houses for the number of players who want them and who even have the gil and time for one. The game has been growing in popularity yet it's still just 5760 houses per World when Balmung and Mateus have an active population of 30,000 players and many of those players have 2-4 houses or more each via having an FC house and/or being grandfathered in to have houses on their alts.
    Adding 1440 more houses in Ishgard per World also isn't going to put a dent in the issue on the more populated servers. Even when Mateus was 1/4th the population it is now, it was still hard to find an open plot.

    They need to add instanced housing as an alternative to apartments, and/or just let FCs pay $500/year for their own private district (which should easily cover the server cost) which would free up some of the public plots for personal houses.

    A lot of solutions wouldn't work because they aren't retroactive.
    Like if housing were being added to the game today, they should have made it require 20+ hours of work specifically toward getting one. In a way the camping placards is a good thing because only the committed get them, and the unfair part is just that only one of the many people camping it gets them. If buying a house in Ishgard required 20,000 scrip in addition to the gil costs and such it'd filter out a lot of less dedicated people, for example. Getting a house should be like getting any difficult achievement in the game where it's difficult but fair. Not a random lottery. But they won't do that. I don't think Square is in touch with the housing issue at all.

    They can't add a system like that where people have to actually dedicate to owning a house because so many are grandfathered in when their servers had low populations etc. They were simply lucky.

    Other things in this game don't require luck so I don't understand why we, the player base, are accepting it.
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    Last edited by Oshirigami; 08-24-2021 at 12:39 PM.

  9. #39
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    Angrypillow Duvall
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    Marilith
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    I just started playing a month ago and when I heard about this I pretty much gave up on the idea of ever getting a house.
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  10. #40
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Fixed. Also, no ticketing for specific plots. You want a small, get a ticket for a small, get a random plot.

    Problem fixed. Oh, and disable relocation in lottery wards. Relinquish the house and automatically put it back in the lottery.
    Good luck with this one lol.

    Imagine the outrage, when people get crappy plots instead of lakefront mediums or beachside larges.

    Not only that, they are stuck with those plots without a proper way to upgrade.
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