Haurchefant isn't bisexual (spoilers)

[SnowVix]

...How did religion, in particular Christianty get pulled into this thread? Can we just not please?

And btw, that statement is wrong. But, for the sake of not getting into an argument let's just drop this topic altogether and simply focus on the thread's actual topic please? Thank you.

it got dragged in because OP was literally trying to street preach in his other thread, and this is an extension of that.

[Seraph_Immanuel]

Your version of Christianity

It's just Christianity.

is deeply bigoted

Christianity does discriminate against evil. True.

heavily antisemitic

I have no idea where this came from. You drunk?

[Andanie]

C'mon dawg... really?

??

It's not a victim card. Educate yourself.

Transpeople are still murdered at shocking rates. The likelihood of being assualted or murdered as a transperson- especially a black or Latine trans women is rather high. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-deaths-2021 This year alone is looking very deadly for Transwomen.

And in parts of the world, gay people are still being executed. In May, a young man was beheaded by his own family in an "honor" killing, just before he was able to leave Iran and seek safety. He was murdered for being gay. https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=77690474

The only people playing the victim are the ones complaining about the existence of LGBTQ people who have existed forever. Far longer than the religions that paint them as evil and use that to discriminate, harass, and even kill them.

C'mon dawg... really?

[redheadturk]

Being gay isn't evil, #1. Gay people are just *people*, just like you are me. Discriminating against people is wrong and evil in and of itself.

#2, I for one am glad of the advances that have been made in both the rights of the LGBT community *and* the rights of women to decide what happens to their own bodies.

??

It's not a victim card. Educate yourself.

Transpeople are still murdered at shocking rates. The likelihood of being assualted or murdered as a transperson- especially a black or Latine trans women is rather high. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-deaths-2021 This year alone is looking very deadly for Transwomen.

And in parts of the world, gay people are still being executed. In May, a young man was beheaded by his own family in an "honor" killing, just before he was able to leave Iran and seek safety. He was murdered for being gay. https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=77690474

The only people playing the victim are the ones complaining about the existence of LGBTQ people who have existed forever. Far longer than the religions that paint them as evil and use that to discriminate, harass, and even kill them.

C'mon dawg... really?

Exactly. She got blocked for that bull, as I said earlier in the thread. I have no skin in this game really, but I am going to defend the community because it is *right and moral* to protect people who are being discriminated against.

[nebby00]

it got dragged in because OP was literally trying to street preach in his other thread, and this is an extension of that.

Ah, I see. Well regardless, this isn't the time or the place to be discussing Christianity no matter who disagrees with what. There's no need to get into it here since it will get messy. I can already tell considering redheadturk and Seraph are just going to be arguing around in circles all day and night and the topic is going to be derailed.

I'm not even going to bother with arguing about the topic of Christianity either since as a Christain myself, both sides of this argument is making me cringe and to not ruffle any feathers it's better for everyone to stop derailing the topic and focus on what the original topic was. Otherwise if we can't keep focused, stop replying altogether.

[Loony_BoB]

For what it's worth, I'm straight but I jokingly "flirt" with guys more often than with girls, just because I am more confident they won't misinterpret my intentions. Maybe Haurchefant is just very comfortable with his sexuality, and just enjoys joking about such things. Maybe he's asexual. Maybe he's anything. It genuinely doesn't matter and as he doesn't specify it anywhere, all we're working on are assumptions.

[Seraph_Immanuel]

For what it's worth, I'm straight but I jokingly "flirt" with guys more often than with girls

That's cringe.

[Axxion]

Wow this was a troll thread after all. damn. Can this be closed please?

[Anvaire]

It's often said that Haurchefant is bisexual. The reason given to justify this claim is he hits on the player regardless of their sex in the Japanese dialogue. There's two problems with this argument.

This is only canon in the Japanese dialogue, not the English. Meaning, if you're going through the English dialogue, then there's no good evidence to suggest that he's bisexual in your character's canon.

Regardless, the real problem is that each player has their own canon. Haurchefant dies in the canon of every player but we wouldn't say this is evidence of him dying more than once. And this goes for other scenes and dialogue. Each player's canon is separated and self-contained. Therefore, if I play a male character and Haurchefant hits on me, then that's evidence that he's homosexual, but only in the canon for that particular character. If I play a female character and Haurchefant hits on me, then that's evidence that's he's a heterosexual, but only in the canon for that particular character. But we can't say "Well, he hit on this character... and then he hit on that other character, so therefore he's this" because the canon of these characters cannot exist at the same time. If we said that they did, then we'd also have to say that it's canon that Haurchefant has gone through the exact same dialogue and scenes millions of times, including his death.

Lol Why are you so obsessed with LGBT stuff? Whether he is or not doesnt matter. If players want to see him as that, then thats fine. The game is literally created in a way that most things like this are open to interpretation with a major exception being Magnai who is clearly heterosexual. The others are so ambiguous its hard to say one way or another.

[Caitlyn]

If I decide to change my race into Lalafell, what does that say about Haurchefants sexuality (hypothetical speaking)?


SPOILERS:

Nothing. He is just a dead NPC. Let him rest in peace.