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  1. #61
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    At the end of the day, it's a cosmetic, it's not Pay to Win, it's entirely optional.
    And while this particular design could have been implemented in a different way, something would have had to take it's place.
    The cash shop is part of their business model, they will be releasing a new mount in the mogstation every few months, it's already scheduled, best get used to it. The only thing that's going to stop it, is if it stops being profitable.
    And sure, I get it. "why does the specific mount I've always wanted have to be the one that gets put in the cash shop?" Well it's a popular design, and they're going to put stuff in the cash shop that will actually sell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    9 million?!?! I'm sure the people who have stocked up MGP wouldn't mind. "Work towards"? The Gold Saucer is so bad. I cannot believe people even actually play it unironically.
    You just google and copy the cheap 80 points Fashion Report, enter the Verminion Tournament and concede every game instantly to NPC's, clear the Verminion challenge log by zerging boss battle 4 semi-afk with all Wind-Up Gentlemen and do Cactpot. The tournament in particular is very underrated, you don't even play Verminion and you get big MGP.

    This maths out at something like 10.2 million a year average without MGP buffs and depending on how many on your server do the tournament.

    Barely 10 mins a day of minimum effort and you rack up millions over time. Triple Triad, MGP cards from moogle tomes, Chocobo races and the mini-games are bad value. I bought nearly everything and MGP capped a long time ago.
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    Their reactions for the most part seem pretty practical for me. I really don't understand why people focus so much on store mounts or extras.
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    The funny part is the little bit that they talk about it in one of there mega threads they praise it and ask if it means that a 4 man Brute Justice mount is in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    The funny part is the little bit that they talk about it in one of there mega threads they praise it and ask if it means that a 4 man Brute Justice mount is in the future.
    Bless them for Proposing such an amazing idea.
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    Where do you guys even got your sources from? EU and NA isn't that much different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Yup asmon said it best. It is like taking food coloring into water. All it takes is a few drops and the whole glass is change. It is how it is.
    Not really, unfortunately. We easily have the capacity to tell one individual from another, whereas colored water cannot be looked at as individual parts. If people would start taking individuals as individuals instead of grouping everything together in neat little easy-to-understand packages, then the one or two creating rabble wouldn't be a problem.

    However, that means stopping all of the following, which generalize people:

    "(Color / Sexuality / Gender / Nationality / Religion) people act this way or want these things or believe in these ideals..."

    In any sense of the words, all of that is nonsense. Everyone has a different experience. Some (race) people share nothing in common with other (race) people at all. (Sexuality) people don't all want the same things or feel the same way. (Gender) people all want this or that or act like this or that. People from (Country) act like this or that... it's all nonsense. Like, blatant nonsense, to me anyway, and actually nothing like adding food coloring to water. In that example, the water has objectively changed color, whereas I am not affected by how the person next to me is behaving. It's a problem in perception when people assume I will act a certain way because someone else in my country acted a certain way.

    Lunacy!

    It's easy to avoid, too. If you say the words "all" and follow it up with a group of people, then you'd best not proceed to describe their morals or behavior or activities. The Earth is devoid of a single soul ever to have interacted with all individuals in a race, or a sexuality, or a country, thereby earning that soul the authority to speak on how the larger group acts or behaves. The concept of claiming to know how all members of a group behave, act or what they believe in is asinine to me.

    I don't personally think the world at large can stop thinking like this, at least not right now. On an individual basis, it is possible, but the general tide of social behavior won't eliminate these things for decades (sheesh, maybe even centuries) to come. Personally, I'd need to speak individually to "all Americans" to make a comment on how they all feel or act, so I don't do that. Never talked to all gay people either, so I don't comment on how "they all behave." Ditto race, religion, etc. I'm smart enough to separate the bad apples from the other individuals, and so should we all be.

    Unfortunately, right now we are not. We will be someday, but until then, "all of the Americans" will be either this thing or that thing to many people.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 08-16-2021 at 12:36 PM. Reason: Clarity
    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    A bit late but:
    According to a survey published in 2006, 13% of EU citizens speak English as their native language. Another 38% of EU citizens state that they have sufficient English skills to hold a conversation, so the total reach of English in the EU is 51%

    That was back in 2006. Yes millions of old senior citizens and boomers don't speak english. Lol. The number up there doesn't even include all the now well connected millenials which almost all know english as if it is their first language. So yes "plenty" of Europeans don't speak english. But those who play games and especially mmos usually do.

    Some sources even say roughly 370m out of 450m residents can speak english. (That is "now" in 2020) So...yeah...weird...isn't it? Sure there are still "plenty" which can't speak english but when we boil it down to the mmo crowd almost everyone is fluid in english.

    Dunno how it looks in france tho, maybe your education is just the worst.
    What's the standard for holding a conversation though? Form what I've seen it's usually not that high, and it doesn't take into consideration that some people would rather use their native language rather than English when they don't have to.

    Also the ability to use a language has nothing to do with education but how people interact with a language in general and how they're driven to use it (or not) in their everyday lives. Studying isn't acquiring.
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    Damn this is so wrong i dunno where to start.

    First, there are cultural differences. A lot. As i said look at the shout/yell chat in hubs on the japan datacenters and on the north america datacenters. THERE IS A GIANT DIFFERENCE. Culture makes differences.

    And these differences accumulate so much that they have a general impact. Like as i said with mentors. Sure not all NA mentors are bad. But enough are so bad that NA mentors basically turned into a living meme everyone looks down at.

    There are differences that are measurable, like as i said with Eureka. NA is not social. Not at all. No social healthcare etc. like most of EU has. And in general EU people are less hostile and more peaceful. Which is a cultural difference. And that you can see ingame.

    Generalizing things helps to locate trends and identify problems in our society. If we say "we" have a problem it's not "ALL ARE" the problem but all have it. If most americans are racist (example not connected to reality) it's a general problem of society, doesn't mean all americans are racist but all americans suffer from that problem. Same as people on NA servers suffer from toxicity, bad mentors and a culture of entitlement which is rooted in their culture cause it's a "me first" culture. Which is the opposite of what for example japan is. You can't ignore peoples cultural backgrounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Damn this is so wrong i dunno where to start.

    First, there are cultural differences. A lot. As i said look at the shout/yell chat in hubs on the japan datacenters and on the north america datacenters. THERE IS A GIANT DIFFERENCE. Culture makes differences.

    And these differences accumulate so much that they have a general impact. Like as i said with mentors. Sure not all NA mentors are bad. But enough are so bad that NA mentors basically turned into a living meme everyone looks down at.
    Which is a problem with personal perception, not a problem with mentors or NA. Just because some or many NA mentors are bad, "NA mentors" are not bad. The individual should look at the NA mentor in question, and rate them on their performance. The simple existence of "NA mentor" memes cements my point, and you yourself just admitted that "everyone looks down at" them. That is the ridiculous result of generalizations.

    This does a disservice to the good NA mentors (of which there are many). A large group of humans believe all NA mentors suck, and will label them as such before ever interacting with them.

    (See also: World of Warcraft and the Ragnaros server. Same issue of generalization.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    There are differences that are measurable, like as i said with Eureka. NA is not social. Not at all. No social healthcare etc. like most of EU has. And in general EU people are less hostile and more peaceful. Which is a cultural difference. And that you can see ingame.
    Contrary to popular belief, we do have free healthcare here in the US for the qualified (poor / disabled / elderly). All that is required is for you to not have an income (don't work / can't work) and healthcare will be provided for you. Usually out of a major hospital and/or convenient clinics.

    And yes, there are cultural differences that are measurable. If you want to say EU is "less hostile," then that is just fine, as long as you don't label me as "hostile" since I am American. That would be a disservice to me and any other American that isn't hostile. Ditto the "fat American" memes and "gun-toting, rootin'-tootin' Texan memes the rest of the world applies to us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Generalizing things helps to locate trends and identify problems in our society. If we say "we" have a problem it's not "ALL ARE" the problem but all have it. If most americans are racist (example not connected to reality) it's a general problem of society, doesn't mean all americans are racist but all americans suffer from that problem. Same as people on NA servers suffer from toxicity, bad mentors and a culture of entitlement which is rooted in their culture cause it's a "me first" culture. Which is the opposite of what for example japan is. You can't ignore peoples cultural backgrounds.
    You are missing the point. Culture shouldn't be ignored; culture is beautiful and amazing and meant to be shared. But, don't use it to judge an individual before you interact with them. The dude from JP might be a total jerk (even though EU/JP are generalized as less hostile), and the gal from the US might be the nicest person you ever met (even though NA is generalized as more hostile).

    And therefore, generalizations are friggin' useless. Completely useless. Judge the individual on personal interaction, not what "the world" believes about a group.

    See, this is what I mean, we simply aren't ready to give this stuff up yet. /Sadpanda
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 08-16-2021 at 12:52 PM. Reason: Cleanup
    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

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