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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Suzaku wall hangings can be found from the Zadnor lockboxes so the market is gradually getting saturated with them.

    SE seems to actively dislike older glam/furnishing items tied to treasure maps or trials retaining value and thus continues to shove them into loot from deep dungeons/exploratory fields.

    There are a couple oddball items that have not gotten this treatment yet, though, so those might be worth chasing after if you're trying to make money.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    SE seems to actively dislike older glam/furnishing items tied to treasure maps or trials retaining value and thus continues to shove them into loot from deep dungeons/exploratory fields.
    I think it's more they completely destroyed Materia has a currency and had no idea what else to stuff in loot boxes for Bozja. What's truly baffling is they didn't put Fragments in there.

    As for the OP itself. Crafting as a whole became substantially easier this expansion both in endgame recipes and leveling. The result is far more supply and nowhere near enough demand. The devs seem to actively dislike high sale prices without realizing that was what many higher end crafters enjoy. Hence why Expert Recipes didn't work. That, and the grind is absurd for absolutely nothing.
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I think it's more they completely destroyed Materia has a currency and had no idea what else to stuff in loot boxes for Bozja. What's truly baffling is they didn't put Fragments in there.
    It's a little annoying they've started to dip into current expansion items for lootboxes and retainer ventures now. Things like Primal weapons, Submarine minions, lv80 furniture and such. Recycling old rewards to save having to make new ones is a little cheap in itself, but you can understand it. However I feel they should at least give items an expansion or two of having some value.

    I never thought I'd say it, but Extract Materia was a mistake. It's simply bonus income for bots now. Cross world hunts have also flooded the game with an endless supply of battle materia. I doubt SE intend this, because it means materia is no longer a worthwhile reward for things like beast tribe currency, scrips, dungeons, bozja boxes and so on.
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    It’s because they made crafting and gathering absolutely brainless this expansion. Ishgard restoration made it so everyone and their mother can have easy max level crafters so there’s way more supply than there is demand.
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    It’s because they made crafting and gathering absolutely brainless this expansion. Ishgard restoration made it so everyone and their mother can have easy max level crafters so there’s way more supply than there is demand.
    It is a wonderful thing: the ability to craft one's own max-iLevel gear without having to pay millions of gil for the latest-and-greatest each patch.

    It wreaks havoc with the so-called economy, but there are also a heck of a lot more players at this moment than at any other time we've gotten to the last patch of an expansion. Of course prices are lower.

    I expect things to take off again, pricewise, the third week of November, when the preview week of the next expansion begins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    It is a wonderful thing: the ability to craft one's own max-iLevel gear without having to pay millions of gil for the latest-and-greatest each patch.
    But gear was never hard to get. Normal 8 mans and the current 24 man raid usually drop gear that's more than enough for everything in the game below Savage, not to mention Tomes. You never had to pay millions to gear, it was just a luxury. Max level raid gear handed over on a plate just isn't necessary.

    It damages more than the economy when endgame items are too accessible. There's a reason most MMO's don't just hand everything over once you hit 80 and raids have loot lockouts. It means less reason to run Normal raids, dungeons and Alliances. Crafting no longer keeps players occupied. Things like Materia are worthless as rewards. I doubt it was intended for everything to be this cheap at all.
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