Lack of pve content

[Solebound]

If they add contet Y, they won't add content x, how is that so hard to comprehend?

People don't want them to focus on hard raids BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. Do you get it? Do you?

You people seem to think time doesn't exist inside a development studio, and that SE has infinite resources.

Also, before someone comes with "well they should hire more people then lolol". That wouldn't fix the issue in years, because it would take years before they would know the tools, engine and systems well enough to actually contribute as other people would need to train them which would cut their contribution to a minimum.

MSQ, Normal raids, normal trials, normal dungeons and deep dungeons/Bozjan is the meat of the game. Savege, EX and PvP is just side-content. If you don't like that, then I'll repeat myself once again, play something else, because it's not going to change.

First of all you need to relax. Second of all who is you people? Why are you so hostile?

Your taking all this feedback as a personal attack on YOUR PLAY STYLE!

Because some of us want improved pvp maps and skills? improved dungeons that don't feel monotonous?

Improved classes that don't feel homogenized? (healers/tanks)

Do i speak for all midcore pve players? No. Do you speak for all casuals? Not everything is a personal affront goddam no wonder others look at this post and go "there goes the toxic casuals again"

I swear to you just because people are looking for something challenging is not going to take away from you emoting in limsa for 12+ hours a day.

I'm pretty sure because of feedback we got ultimate raiding. Back when i was heavy raiding heavensward we did not have that, but it came to be because the community wanted it despite what you are angrily typing about.

You think I don't understand content like that takes time?? Dont you think I would be ok with that? I'm asking for improved pvp for godsakes which is heavily ignored

God forbid someone wants their experience in the game they love to be a little bit better.

In before you tell me to go play another game. No I play this game because I love this game, I pay a monthly sub to this game and I want this game to be better.

[TTiscancer]

First of all you need to relax. Second of all who is you people? Why are you so hostile?

Your taking all this feedback as a personal attack on YOUR PLAY STYLE!

Because some of us want improved pvp maps and skills? improved dungeons that don't feel monotonous?

Improved classes that don't feel homogenized? (healers/tanks)

Do i speak for all midcore pve players? No. Do you speak for all casuals? Not everything is a personal affront goddam no wonder others look at this post and go "there goes the toxic casuals again"

I swear to you just because people are looking for something challenging is not going to take away from you emoting in limsa for 12+ hours a day.

I'm pretty sure because of feedback we got ultimate raiding. Back when i was heavy raiding heavensward we did not have that, but it came to be because the community wanted it despite what you are angrily typing about.

You think I don't understand content like that takes time?? Dont you think I would be ok with that? I'm asking for improved pvp for godsakes which is heavily ignored

God forbid someone wants their experience in the game they love to be a little bit better.

In before you tell me to go play another game. No I play this game because I love this game, I pay a monthly sub to this game and I want this game to be better.

I've done more mythic raids and dungeons in wow that you'll ever do, even if you started now and made it your life goal.

I simply don't go to other games and post endlessly about how the game should change to the game I don't wanna play anymore cause that would be... UTTERLY MORONIC

[Solebound]

I've done more mythic raids and dungeons in wow that you'll ever do, even if you started now and made it your life goal.

I simply don't go to other games and post endlessly about how the game should change to the game I don't wanna play anymore cause that would be... UTTERLY MORONIC

Did you ever see in my post history that i played wow? No you assumed I have, I have never played wow

I have played this game on and off since arr 2.55 being my first toes into the MMO space

I left to go play Black desert Online for a couple of years

You don't see me asking to turn this game into a giant gear gated casino now do you?

All i asked for , for years, was to make some of the content that i may only have an hour or two of being able to do engaging and a bit challenging. Not Super hardcore on the bleeding edge, but not putting me to sleep either

And then when I do have time I know the difficult content is there for me to consume

Take a break your having to many heated gamer moments in this thread alone for no reason.

If you are a paying costumer you have the right to give feedback. Will some feedback fall by the wayside, of course it would. but its not going to stop paying customers from requesting something that will make their engagement of the game better.

Your being so dismissive in tone your not even taking into account some things that can be reasonably implemented without taking away some of the fluff content. Again stop being so close-minded.

This community is supposed to be so diverse of opinions until its the opinion you don't like.

[TTiscancer]

Did you ever see in my post history that i played wow? No you assumed I have, I have never played wow

I have played this game on and off since arr 2.55 being my first toes into the MMO space

I left to go play Black desert Online for a couple of years

You don't see me asking to turn this game into a giant gear gated casino now do you?

All i asked for , for years, was to make some of the content that i may only have an hour or two of being able to do engaging and a bit challenging. Not Super hardcore on the bleeding edge, but not putting me to sleep either

And then when I do have time I know the difficult content is there for me to consume

Take a break your having to many heated gamer moments in this thread alone for no reason.

If you are a paying costumer you have the right to give feedback. Will some feedback fall by the wayside, of course it would. but its not going to stop paying customers from requesting something that will make their engagement of the game better.

Your being so dismissive in tone your not even taking into account some things that can be reasonably implemented without taking away some of the fluff content. Again stop being so close-minded.

This community is supposed to be so diverse of opinions until its the opinion you don't like.

You saying I'm a "casual" is laughable just because I don't want the game to turn into a raiding game, and I will voice and defend that opinion whether you like it or not.

No content is challenging once you beat it. There is no such thing as "challenging content", just new. That's the biggest myth about "hardcore raiding", that it's actually hard forever. If that was the case, it would be impossible to sell carry runs.

[Theodric]

There is no such thing as "challenging content", just new.

...but there is, because some content is inherently more difficult to complete and therefore challenging compared to other content. It's also very subjective, so even amongst different groups of players what is considered to be challenging is going to vary across the board. That even applies to a lot of content that is made 'easier' over time through an increase in character power. Some fights will still result in a group wipe if tactics are not adhered to.

[TTiscancer]

...but there is, because some content is inherently more difficult to complete and therefore challenging compared to other content. It's also very subjective, so even amongst different groups of players what is considered to be challenging is going to vary across the board. That even applies to a lot of content that is made 'easier' over time through an increase in character power. Some fights will still result in a group wipe if tactics are not adhered to.

Someone being incompetent doesn't make the task they are failing at hard.

[raelgun]

Someone being incompetent doesn't make the task they are failing at hard.

So to conclude from your argument, if raiding isn't hard then whats the issue with having more of it? If you are content with every other content that is easy, then whats wrong with having more by your definition reasonable content in like more savage raids?

[Theodric]

Someone being incompetent doesn't make the task they are failing at hard.

I don't agree that it has anything to do with 'incompetence' in many cases. Again, inherent difficulty exists and ultimate raiding is legitimately difficult. So, too, is ranked PvP and solo clears of the higher floors in POTD and HOH.

[Solebound]

You saying I'm a "casual" is laughable just because I don't want the game to turn into a raiding game, and I will voice and defend that opinion whether you like it or not.

No content is challenging once you beat it. There is no such thing as "challenging content", just new. That's the biggest myth about "hardcore raiding", that it's actually hard forever. If that was the case, it would be impossible to sell carry runs.

It not about liking/disliking your opnion

Your being dismissive

You are gatekeeping the game

You are close minded to the fact that others want something different then what your accustomed to

Dont like savage/ex/ultimate/pvp dont play it. 14 allows any kind of playstyle not just "normal content"

ON this we will agree to disagree

But Im not going to sit back and watch you attack others because they dont conform to your own.

FFXIV is not only about normal causal content. You need a wakeup call. People play this game for many different reasons

What may appeal to you or be fun to you is not going to be the same to me or anyone else

Diversity of opinions is not going to kill this game, being toxic and gatekeeping will.

And i will repeat I'm glad there is a surge of new players so that stuff that's being said on discord in private chats will make its way here and get implemented

[raelgun]

I've done more mythic raids and dungeons in wow that you'll ever do, even if you started now and made it your life goal.

I simply don't go to other games and post endlessly about how the game should change to the game I don't wanna play anymore cause that would be... UTTERLY MORONIC

Link to Wow armoury please