Upcoming wipe/drama fest 8/13/2021

[Silica-chan]

Wondering what the communities thoughts on this are right now? Limit Max seems to think the community cares about them boosting given the Source Twitlonger. I see the difference between World first raiders boosting and Quin69 or LazyPeon (Might just be me).

How do you guys think this is going to go?

I can only speak for myself, but I don't care as long as they move within the ToS.

Yes, they are using 3rd Party tools like ACT and what not, but I still don't care (SE probably does not care either) under the condition they don't misuse them on other players.


Side note: where is the flood of evil/toxic that people promised would happen once Asmongold joined? (No, I'm not one of his followers, I didn't even know who that was before he joined)

[Rinhi]

Side note: where is the flood of evil/toxic that people promised would happen once Asmongold joined? (No, I'm not one of his followers, I didn't even know who that was before he joined)

it already happened right at the beginning and lo and behold, many of those people trolling and bothering him had endgame mounts :^)

[Sotaris]

it already happened right at the beginning and lo and behold, many of those people trolling and bothering him had endgame mounts :^)

But that couldn't been FFXIV players! Or whatever his haters used for excuse.

[Jojoya]

Side note: where is the flood of evil/toxic that people promised would happen once Asmongold joined? (No, I'm not one of his followers, I didn't even know who that was before he joined)

As expected, SE stomped on them as soon as they started getting reported. A lot of players earned bans that weekend Asmongold started and some of them posted copies of their bans on reddit. Many WoW content creators who had recently joined FFXIV remarked on it at the time to make the message clear: you can get away with that stuff in WoW but in FFXIV it will catch up to you here sooner instead of later.

That's part of why so much of the player base is loyal to FFXIV regardless of what flaws they see in the game. SE wants every player to have an enjoyable experience and they're not interested in enabling those who want to ruin things for others. Compare that to WOW where the official Customer Service response for years was "there's no rule against being a jerk".

But that couldn't been FFXIV players! Or whatever his haters used for excuse.

It's weird how some can't grasp that there's considerable overlap between the various game and streamer communities.

Were those players acting that way because they're FFXIV players or were they acting that way because they enjoy harassing Asmongold wherever he goes?

If they hadn't been doing it to other FFXIV players before Asmongold showed up and only did it to him once he started playing, seems a lot more likely the latter is the reason for their behavior and not the former.

[Silica-chan]

it already happened right at the beginning and lo and behold, many of those people trolling and bothering him had endgame mounts :^)

Yeah I heard of that. I havn't heard of any other incident since. (outside of occasional zone congestions because ppl like to follow him around)
I was more talking about the people of this forum, claiming endless amounts of evil would join this game because of him.



What I'm trying to say is, people should try to be a bit less scared of anything World of Warcraft related, the GMs seem to do just fine. (atlast in my experience, we aren't all saints here either btw)

[Rinhi]

I was more talking about the people of this forum, claiming endless amounts of evil would join this game because of him.

just the usual bitter ex talk where scenarios are invented to appear as better than them, tbh
you'll also see those people invalidate other players' WoW experiences when it doesn't align with the ones they had, or ignore posts made by them to continue pushing that "everything about and everyone in the WoW community is toxic and bad" narrative while also usually expressing a ton of (self-)adulation when it comes to XIV
while conveniently making excuses or "forgetting" about the bad parts of it, that those are just bad apples and not the whole community (truth) - but generalising and harshly judging WoW and it's community about similar bad apples, and applying it to everyone that plays it (false)

[Reinha]

I hope they have fun and I don't care if they use addons.

The only thing that grinds my gears is when people say Thing X sucks even though they've never tried it. Maybe they wouldn't enjoy X, but that's not the same as X being bad. You can't say that's a really bad theme park ride if you haven't been on the ride and don't have a general understanding of what a theme park ride is supposed to be like. Or maybe you don't eat meat but that doesn't mean the steak you are skipping is a bad steak.

It goes the other way too. Lots of people who never played WoW seem to have a lot of opinions about how toxic the community is.

[Imora]

I just consider them incredibly hypocritical.

"We want to do it blind and suffer" while at the same time modifying their games in ways that make it easier to do the content.

Lol.

[KaijinRhada]

https://www.icy-veins.com/jobs-ffxiv

^ The more attention this mmo gets the more attention it gets from professional content creators. If this happens with Icy Veins backing it then you can effectively retire every single job discord overnight especially since come Endwalker some of them will not even be supported anymore.

The existence of Icy Veins didn't stop class discords from being a thing. When demon hunter came with Legion, there were two Discords out there for them: Mardum and Fel Hammer. Sure it was consolidated into just Fel Hammer, but people were still fairly active on it. Guides on those Discrods have been posted on Icy Veins, but sometimes you only want to talk within a community sub-group.

There's also more resources that people use outside of Icy Veins, even blogs and community forums specific to classes and specs. Quite a few of the druid communities were still there when I switched to DH as well.

I doubt Icy Veins would demolish the Discords out there, given that they have older communities that have been established. And it would probably take a lot to eat up The Balance.

[Mixelplix]

I just got home, did I miss all the pillaging and looting?