Lack of pve content

[Theodric]

To be fair, additional PvE content does not necessarily need to translate into high end raiding. There's a sizeable portion of the community who have been politely asking for more content for a while now - because there are plenty of people who invest in the game on a long term basis and desire more to do once they've completed the latest batch of MSQ's.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

We had 3 savages and 1 ultimates, which is equivalent to 1 week + 5 days prog (I assume TEA is 1 week prog), I will round to 2 week prog

2 week prog in Wow is 2 Mythical raids, they have 3-4 mythical raids (without even considering Heroic raids) per extension

Why such lack of pve content ? for a MMORPG that want to become better/the #1

(I still consider FF14 better than WOW overall, but this lack of pve content is a bit upsetting)

2 weeks total? You must be the top of the top then.

For most players it's several weeks to months to clear a tier or 1 ultimate.

[Nothv13]

2 weeks total? You must be the top of the top then.

For most players it's several weeks to months to clear a tier or 1 ultimate.

I know groups that are still trying to clear the final Savage raid and have been trying since it was released.

[Garnix]

You cant even quote and sources your post.
And that is just making excuses who makes money can make more content.

And you all are "whiteknighting" developers excuses behind wanting more.

And it perfectly serves devs.

Poeple wanting more of X : We want more!

People of Y : No or we dont get our things we want!

Devs laughing at them fighting between them while doing bare minimum of content despite claiming growth and making more money.

And if you cant see that ....... then.

Raiders have been asking for more raids since...forever basically...
That's why Ultimates started being a thing.
It's not like the hardcore raiding scene is always being ignored or whatever you seem to be thinking....It's just not the absolute priority.
Now you may not like the way they are planning and adjusting their content release, and that's fair.
But saying "they have money they can make more content" is just irrelevant, especially after they announced spending a ton of money on the servers infrastructure, unless you have insider knowledge on their income and the amount they are spending.

[TTiscancer]

To be fair, additional PvE content does not necessarily need to translate into high end raiding. There's a sizeable portion of the community who have been politely asking for more content for a while now - because there are plenty of people who invest in the game on a long term basis and desire more to do once they've completed the latest batch of MSQ's.

It's not humanly possible to create content faster than you can consume it unless you do procedually generated random corridors that are fun for 5 minutes.

It takes months to design, program, do the models and test a Trial that a PF group clears in 5 minutes.

[Wavaryen]

You really do not understand software development, time management, personnel management, nor money management. Throwing money at things doesn't mean they will get completed faster nor even get completed. Time, manpower, and money are limited. This means that if you are working at max capacity you either pull people from other projects, effectively slowing other areas, push everything back effectively giving yourself more time, causing content draughts and missing deadlines, or hire more people, which doesn't guarantee anything, may just clog things up and slow things down, and may not even be possible depending on the money situation. There are trade-offs for each choice and it is almost never as simple as just throw money at it. This is a reality of actual project management. I suggest you take a class on it.

Agree, it is very very VERY hard to do games as a service and keep coming up with content to make said service fresh and keep players wanting to play. Time, resources, money, and engine limits. Like, every content patch a mmorpg comes out with is a gamble on keeping the player base happy and engaged. Choices has to be made on who to make happy more. And since most people don't do end game raids. It is easy choice for developers to cut back content, so they have time for content that most players play.



It is harsh reality, and it means that the player base will always have a little civil war with each other over what content they want to see. It is the nature of the beast.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I think the main problem is really, we should be seeing improvements per expansion. Yet ShB for example has had less content than previous expansions. They keep adding things that only a minority asked for, or content that is very short lived. People have asked for a long time now to add more so idk why people are talking about dev time. People know it takes dev time, but considering this has been a demand since the game first came out they’ve had plenty of time to adjust and listen.

[Wavaryen]

I think the main problem is really, we should be seeing improvements per expansion. Yet ShB for example has had less content than previous expansions. They keep adding things that only a minority asked for, or content that is very short lived. People have asked for a long time now to add more so idk why people are talking about dev time. People know it takes dev time, but considering this has been a demand since the game first came out they’ve had plenty of time to adjust and listen.

No amount of content the developers come up with. Player base will devour it fast and it won't feel "amazing" and how often can you make a grind system before the grind gets tedious?



What I HOPE they do is expand on the deep dungeon system, and give us more of that. Not copy and paste it, but add a new one and new features. I would love content that is repeatable and rewards time invested in a way I like, but how would you do that? That is hard.


Point is, no matter how much content the developers make. Someone else will be like. YO THATS IT?

[TTiscancer]

I think the main problem is really, we should be seeing improvements per expansion. Yet ShB for example has had less content than previous expansions. They keep adding things that only a minority asked for, or content that is very short lived. People have asked for a long time now to add more so idk why people are talking about dev time. People know it takes dev time, but considering this has been a demand since the game first came out they’ve had plenty of time to adjust and listen.

"Improvement" implies there is something wrong. Show me this magical MMO with endless content that FF14 should aspire to.

I'll hold my breath, I swear.

[Theodric]

The idea that FFXIV is perfect and doing absolutely nothing wrong is arguably the exact same mentality that led to WoW's fall from grace, though.