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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    It may be a fantasy game but if we're meant to take viera men seriously as a threat then it'd be much easier to do so if they weren't running around looking like they were about to step onto a catwalk and enter a fashion show.

    Especially when they supposedly live such a reclusive and harsh lifestyle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It may be a fantasy game but if we're meant to take viera men seriously as a threat then it'd be much easier to do so if they weren't running around looking like they were about to step onto a catwalk and enter a fashion show.

    Especially when they supposedly live such a reclusive and harsh lifestyle.
    Then don't take them seriously. Do you think anyone takes Lalas seriously? Or flying eyeballs? Or flying pigs? Like... bruh, stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTiscancer View Post
    Then don't take them seriously. Do you think anyone takes Lalas seriously? Or flying eyeballs? Or flying pigs? Like... bruh, stop.
    All things added to lighten the mood in the game in the style of some FFs, even if not always explicitly. Not everything falls under that category. Part of the issue is that some people prefer their FFs to be more like 12 (or even Type-0 or 13), which had a grittier overall aspect to them.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It may be a fantasy game but if we're meant to take viera men seriously as a threat then it'd be much easier to do so if they weren't running around looking like they were about to step onto a catwalk and enter a fashion show.

    Especially when they supposedly live such a reclusive and harsh lifestyle.
    You say that like the women don't have a reputation for being fierce jungle warriors themselves while looking like supermodels wearing lingerie and stiletto heels. The men seem to be a perfect counterpart for that mismatch of skill and appearance.

    And talking of heels – assuming their height while in racial gear is the listed height, the 5cm difference between men and women is more than made up for by the height of their shoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    You say that like the women don't have a reputation for being fierce jungle warriors themselves while looking like supermodels wearing lingerie and stiletto heels. The men seem to be a perfect counterpart for that mismatch of skill and appearance.

    And talking of heels – assuming their height while in racial gear is the listed height, the 5cm difference between men and women is more than made up for by the height of their shoes.
    I think the lingerie and stilettos thing is just Fran the Viera in Rak'tika all got actual clothes and such on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    You say that like the women don't have a reputation for being fierce jungle warriors themselves while looking like supermodels wearing lingerie and stiletto heels. The men seem to be a perfect counterpart for that mismatch of skill and appearance.

    And talking of heels – assuming their height while in racial gear is the listed height, the 5cm difference between men and women is more than made up for by the height of their shoes.
    That would be the case if heels actually worked, but they don't, nevermind the fact that Viera don't have the feet they're supposed to have in XIV, which is the reason for their shoes being the way it is originally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    That would be the case if heels actually worked, but they don't, nevermind the fact that Viera don't have the feet they're supposed to have in XIV, which is the reason for their shoes being the way it is originally.
    I know they don't work correctly overall and a character's height doesn't change between equipping heels and flat shoes, so their lower legs grow and shrink instead.

    In most cases the characters are modelled with flat/low heels to begin with, but my question is, how does that look on Viera? Not having spent time playing one, do their legs look realistically proportioned in heels and overly long in flat shoes?

    If they're modelled with the intent that they're wearing heels, even if game limitations don't allow them to do it all the time, then I would consider their "model height" to include the height of their heels.


    Quote Originally Posted by EmoPanther View Post
    I think the lingerie and stilettos thing is just Fran the Viera in Rak'tika all got actual clothes and such on.
    Actual clothes, yeah, but they're all still wearing the Viera stilettos instead of the flat sandals that go with the Ravel set.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 08-11-2021 at 04:30 PM.

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    Player HollowedDoll's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I know they don't work correctly overall and a character's height doesn't change between equipping heels and flat shoes, so their lower legs grow and shrink instead.

    In most cases the characters are modelled with flat/low heels to begin with, but my question is, how does that look on Viera? Not having spent time playing one, do their legs look realistically proportioned in heels and overly long in flat shoes?

    If they're modelled with the intent that they're wearing heels, even if game limitations don't allow them to do it all the time, then I would consider their "model height" to include the height of their heels.




    Actual clothes, yeah, but they're all still wearing the Viera stilettos instead of the flat sandals that go with the Ravel set.
    They straight up have the same body mesh as any other female race the majority of which wear heels on their starters and smallclothes sans lalafell so I don't really know, they do have long legs either way. Regardless, if we take the viera feet structure into account that never made it into the game, they should both be wearing heels.
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