FFXIV: Do you think Square Enix will put more money and resources into it?

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Pretty much every single MMO release has this issue.

Thats not true. Nor justifies it if that's the idea.

If they mess up this time with servers, is entirely on the developers and the lack of resourcing flowing from us to the game and instead to the investors. There is nothing more to it.

[Ramesses]

We need a game engine upgrade, with better graphics and way less technical limitations. New mmos coming out like pso2 new genesis and new world, ashes of creation are looking a lot more updated. We gotta keep up.

Who knows...? Once the 6.0 Endwalker tale is concluded, the reward for players could be a transfer to a more graphically upgraded world.

Yoshi is always full of wonderful surprises like that.

[DPZ2]

Thats not true. Nor justifies it if that's the idea.

If they mess up this time with servers, is entirely on the developers and the lack of resourcing flowing from us to the game and instead to the investors. There is nothing more to it.

Servers are a finite resource. Data Center space is a finite resource. If you want full control over your system environment, you purchase servers to accommodate current load, and project the number that are going to be needed in some number of years from now. If you predict things correctly, server acquisition is smooth. If you don't ...

Hypothetically speaking, if you're a multinational corporation, whose primary source of income is not a single video game, you ask those in charge of that part of your corporation that makes video games to provide numbers for annual budgeting. You then factor in cost over time for things like servers and the things associated with running them: electric bills, lighting bills, power and air conditioning bills, data center floorspace charges, network charges (not just in the data center, but worldwide). Did I mention taxes and maintenance?

(We'll skip all the other things you budget for, as it really doesn't make a difference to our hypothetical).

Now, say you've budgeted X dollars, because you've got 8 years of data about how many people play this game, and how the cost per player per month to accommodate them to play simultaneously is a positive number, not a loss, and some projected growth curve based on experience. And lo, another gaming company has made such a complete botch of their current title that their players are seeking someplace else to do pretty much the same thing. They choose your video game.

Whoops!

Have you budgeted for that growth? Nope.
Should you have anticipated that growth? Nope.

What can you do? I refer you to the information provided by the Producer of this game about what they're going to do, and when. Note that the time frame for expansion was projected to be performed over the next two years, rather than prior to the 6.0 expansion, through no fault of SE's budgeting process.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...0acb6c23ccd07f

Another word about that hypothetical company. I don't know where people get the idea that Square Enix's responsibility to stockholders is somehow lower priority than to players of this game. They have to oversee more than just videogames. They develop more video games each year that are not based on the Final Fantasy franchise. The money goes into a big pot called "net sales", not "Final Fantasy 14 sales".

There are over 20 subsidiaries within SE, and I think that publishing the next chapter of Black Butler is almost as important as the next patch release for FFXIV. Your mileage may vary.

[remiff]

they have already said that the graphics upgrade is not a problem of money,
but a problem for the development of the game, because they will have to put a huge amount of resources into it,
to update the engine and therefore change physics system, displays and other obsolete technology,
and most of the work is redoing the thousands of assets in HD, the actual graphics engine is not able without update to support hd assets.

And after this enormous amount of work,
they must ensure that the game runs correctly on all platforms
that there is no majors bugs, and rewrite the source code,
such work would necessarily have an impact on the content of the game .

for the future of the game it is indeed necessary to make a graphic update, and they are currently talking about it only it is not ready to arrive yet,
for the reasons that yoshida has already mentioned several times.

[Shougun]

Who knows...? Once the 6.0 Endwalker tale is concluded, the reward for players could be a transfer to a more graphically upgraded world.

Yoshi is always full of wonderful surprises like that.

Thinking like PSO2, just a new expansion world that they build the game off from, while keeping the classic areas 'classic', or like FFXI to FFXIV but connect far more this time (semi-related but not entirely).

Do you think they would keep all the levels and stuff though?

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

It'd be nice if they'd put more money into the game itself rather than a bunch of promotional items like watches and guitars and darumas. XIV has more than earned the increased budget and the time it'd take to train new staff, just wish higher ups at SE would realize that.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...0acb6c23ccd07f

An excuse is just that. As pretty as you might put it, is just a excuse.
"The devil doesn't need any more lawyers"


If the servers keep failing and if the service is not properly guaranteed, you just are not doing your work right: As PUBLISHER you must make sure you have the resources to implement and maintain the services you are providing.
If the launch of Endwalkers fails as ARR launch did, this time the "we didn't expected it" excuse won't do, the first time i left it slide because it was a great effort non the less and was a sound argument.

2021 at the fourth expansion, nah my dude, you gotta step it up eventually.

So far we been:

ARR = Bad. (Excused!)
HW = Good. (Relatively low popularity?)
SB = Bad. (Who decided that Raubahn EX was a good idea?)
Shb = Good. (Apparently we learned!)

I hope they truly have learned. We are all watching the sea recede, we know a tsunami is coming. We all know Endwalker will be a massive launch. There is no excuse now.

[Hyperia]

I want to believe that they will continue to invest in this game. It’s become very important to SE and Yoshi’s methods are gaining popularity. Many of his staff have graduated to new projects and taken his teachings with them. So yes, I believe SE will continue to invest in more people as it will benefit their future.

If they were to add a dozen or more devs, even one hundred, it will take time for them to get up to speed. So any investments now will be seen in 7.x and 8.x

They have already shown that they are willing to dump a lot of money into the game had new servers been available to buy.

This game almost destroyed SE’s future and now it is their most important game for the foreseeable future. There is no doubt in my mind that they will continue to invest in their future.

[Fellgon]

rest asured that yes, for at least for next10 years or more, yoshi said so. devs have no plan to create another mmo of final fantasy so far. how do i know? He said it in last fanfest online.

[Shougun]

Many of his staff have graduated to new projects and taken his teachings with them.

Just got a chuckle thinking of everyone at Yoshida, hand on book, in Yoshida we trust.

A-minstrel.

During crunch and you're down to the wire and need a win. WWYD? What would Yoshida do?



I do find the guy very charismatic though, not much of a crier but watching him tear up tears me up sometimes, and as much as it gave me a chuckle I do agree it seems he's been a good influence on the whole (from an outside view at least).

Though ​I hope the internal image is similar to our external one. It would be a little sad "don't meet your heroes" moment if one found out he was like Steve Jobs in the office. . . XD.

I imagine even if they do make a new MMO that this game will be supported multiple years there after just like FFXI, so regardless of what happens I doubt FFXIV is not going to have funding. Of course a big revamp to some core systems could be pretty wonderous too (memory for things like glamour, movement for less awkward space walks, better collision, and fluid feeling moves, and graphical engine improvement). For myself I'm not particular fixed on either one, just hope one of them happens. Both have pros and cons, seems like the latter is safer, while the former is potentially more liberating.