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    Liam Harper
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    With Rapture and Solace being nerfed and GCD heals generating lilies, you're basically only going to Solace the boss for Misery. It works out roughly 2500 potency per minute if you're just spamming your 1-2-3, (5 x 200 + 700 per 40 sec or so) which no WHM is going to turn down. If you needed more healing, you'd throw in some Medica II and Benediction for more lilies. Each lily generating heal is worth 316 potency after all with Solace + 1/6 of a Misery. So using Solace/Rapture to heal is 316 potency lost while using a GCD to heal is more like 80 potency lost. This also makes Asylum lose significant value, as potent as it is, being a GCD that does not generate lilies.

    There's less decision making than you'd think. It boils down to 1-2-3, DoT, Solace and Misery to nuke boss, Benediction, Cure III and Medica II.

    2 sec cast times don't equal weaves either. oGCD's require 0.7 sec + potential latency, which is the reason Malefic is 1.5 sec cast for single weaving.

    The heal on Earth isn't really worth much, the majority of the time it'll be wasted healing on a player who would get healed anyway by your next aoe heal and 450 just isn't enough for clutch. As we've seen with SCH's Embrace at endgame, small heals you have no control over have far less value.
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    Fathym Lyehga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    With Rapture and Solace being nerfed and GCD heals generating lilies, you're basically only going to Solace the boss for Misery. It works out roughly 2500 potency per minute if you're just spamming your 1-2-3, (5 x 200 + 700 per 40 sec or so) which no WHM is going to turn down. If you needed more healing, you'd throw in some Medica II and Benediction for more lilies. Each lily generating heal is worth 316 potency after all with Solace + 1/6 of a Misery. So using Solace/Rapture to heal is 316 potency lost while ausing GCD to heal is more like 80 potency lost. This also makes Asylum lose significant value, as potent as it is, being a GCD that does not generate lilies.

    There's less decision making than you'd think. It boils down to 1-2-3, DoT, Solace and Misery to nuke boss, Benediction, Cure III and Medica II.

    2 sec cast times don't equal weaves either. oGCD's require 0.7 sec + potential latency, which is the reason Malefic is 1.5 sec cast for single weaving.

    The heal on Earth isn't really worth much, the majority of the time it'll be wasted healing on a player who would get healed anyway by your next aoe heal and 450 just isn't enough for clutch. As we've seen with SCH's Embrace at endgame, small heals you have no control over have far less value.
    Ah. I misunderstood how ogcds worked. I though it was possible to have the animation time short enough to fit within the .5 second window but realized after research that it is impossible. To start with, I will move the dps cast times down to 1.5s so lilies always have a place in the rotation to be weaved without clipping. As far as the smart heal goes, the point of the spell is to have a hot that, in most cases, reapplies to the main tank as long as you are going through your 1>2>3 combo. Maybe changing the targeting mechanic to whichever teammate has the high enmity would be more effective.

    What you said about only wanting to dps with the ogcd's is sort of the goal. The idea behind the whole rework is that the player's only ogcd heals will be tied to their dps. The skill expression involved is in using your gcds effectively in combination with aero procs and triplecast so that as many of the ogcds can go towards damage as possible. It rewards good play with significantly higher damage output while still giving the flexibility of ogcd heals when things go wrong. The potencies almost definitely need balancing though.

    You're also right about asylum. I'll just revert it to instant cast as it doesn't really have a massive heal on it anyways.
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    Last edited by Fathym; 08-10-2021 at 03:43 AM.