Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Rinhi]

Well I think this is a larger issue with a lot of people in general not being capable of understanding context or looking at things from a broader perspective, everything is looked at from the most shallow way.
So if someone makes literally any comment that has anything to do with even trying to entertain the idea of helping other players with anything gameplay related they're not capable of understanding that it's different than someone trying to tell you or force you how to play.
I am not a freaking mind reader, I have no clue if someone is intentionally not playing correctly or if they're actually a bit lost and need help ( nor do I know for a fact if someone is ignoring me or if they missed it unless I try again, nor do I know that they'll have an extreme overreaction to even a hint of a joke that might be dry or snarky ).


But it often feels like they're treated the same, and someone can literally curse me out and have a massive mental breakdown about me trying to help because of that snarky response and suddenly it's my fault.
Even if they don't want help they could just say that instead of ignoring and then having a mental breakdown about it, but nah it's always the person trying to help at fault it seems.

that's sadly how it is online nowadays, though I think everyone has been guilty of that at one point
I agree, though, since I think the reflex to defend a player that's intentionally playing bad by to grief others by parts of the community is really f-ing bad and serves as nothing but a moral grandstand by the defenders to show how virtuous they are

my first post on this forum was about exactly that, funnily enough, where someone proudly posted of having kicked a toxic RDM because they double pulled and were being toxic
that it was the first pull of bardam's mettle, where a white mage should have absolutely zero issues with a tome gear tank unless they were greeding for DPS, and that it was a lvl 80 WHM using nothing but cure 1 was conveniently not said, but because I responded in snark that they it's easy if they use the available WHM skills at that level, I was told by nice tank that a WHM doesn't have those skills at that level (which they obviously did)

[Doozer]

Had yet another absolute waste of a DR run yesterday. 4 tanks in total, two in my party (including me) and two in another. That party had no healers. MT died on the first fight and I fell into it because I had the highest aggro, so I tanked the rest of it. My co-tank died to everything, then left after the first fight. Since we can't see other party lists I couldn't keep track, but people were slowly spilling out until I think the third fight, when we were down to just two tanks and one party was down to only two people. Since both other parties lost some we consolidated to get LB3, but we only had 2/3 of the amount of people we should have. We wiped to the enrage on the Queen's Guard fight which was already frustrating enough, and then my game crashed on the second attempt, while I was still MT. Since it was a DirectX error I had to restart my computer and by that point I was just done. Didn't even bother opening the game again.

I wish people understood that leaving because things aren't going as fast as they want hurts literally every other person in the duty. One person leaving turns into two, then three, then there literally isn't enough people to finish it, no matter what lost essences they use. Is completing the duty slower than usual really so much worse than ruining everything for the other 23 people?

Anyway, guess I'm doing 9 level 70 dungeons to finish my relic, because I can't deal with that garbage anymore. Quitters are a way greater plague on this game than anything else.

[gotaname1]

Had yet another absolute waste of a DR run yesterday. 4 tanks in total, two in my party (including me) and two in another. That party had no healers. MT died on the first fight and I fell into it because I had the highest aggro, so I tanked the rest of it. My co-tank died to everything, then left after the first fight. Since we can't see other party lists I couldn't keep track, but people were slowly spilling out until I think the third fight, when we were down to just two tanks and one party was down to only two people. Since both other parties lost some we consolidated to get LB3, but we only had 2/3 of the amount of people we should have. We wiped to the enrage on the Queen's Guard fight which was already frustrating enough, and then my game crashed on the second attempt, while I was still MT. Since it was a DirectX error I had to restart my computer and by that point I was just done. Didn't even bother opening the game again.

I wish people understood that leaving because things aren't going as fast as they want hurts literally every other person in the duty. One person leaving turns into two, then three, then there literally isn't enough people to finish it, no matter what lost essences they use. Is completing the duty slower than usual really so much worse than ruining everything for the other 23 people?

Anyway, guess I'm doing 9 level 70 dungeons to finish my relic, because I can't deal with that garbage anymore. Quitters are a way greater plague on this game than anything else.

I've had a couple of those runs as well and they are beyond aggravating. Although I'm knocking on wood I've yet to disconnect at such an awful time.

I wonder... Would the asian side of the game truly care about fixing dr at all? Because this needs some serious fixing/improvement.

[Liam_Harper]

DR definitely needs improvement. It's baffling that you can just drop at any time with absolutely no penalty, or even leave your party, yet remain in the instance and get credit for doing almost nothing. Essence use isn't rewarded and the droprate on items is still appallingly bad. I never got a mount, hair or barding after 100 runs.

I just did PF speedruns as soon as they became a thing and they were brilliant. Great fun, coordinated groups, fast painless runs and mostly nice enough people. But that's just left DF in even more of a dire state.

[Frizze]

Finally! After all this years in FF i found Ice Mage! He used only Blizzard III, IV and Foul all his way through Amaurot. I'm happy!

Ice mage is not a myth. But it could be worse. I remember a couple years ago(HW era, but i couldnt tell you which patch) i was in an FC party and everyone was kinda goofin around in some dungeon. Running BLM, i was trying to steal agro from the tank as the two of us had kinda an on-going rivalry thing. Her thing was staying ahead of me(when she could), without appearing that she had to try. I dont remember what the healers goof was(maybe full-time cleric stance?). One of the FC leaders had joined as the other DPS, and decided to play an ice mage. They did this for trash up through the first boss. After the first boss they declared that they were stepping it up a notch, and would be a thunder mage for the rest of the dungeon. Thats a mage who applied one dot, watched if it proc'd, and reapplied every so often. Nothing more. It was baaaaaaaaaaad. Luckily, they got bored by like the 80% mark of the next boss, and switched to some other goof instead and we we on and finished the dungeon. Now with that said, ive never encountered a Thunder Mage in the wild. I assume this is because the playstyle would be so boring no one would stick with it long enough. Also, you get your ice and fire spells before thunder, so youd need to learn to cast something else to even unlock this mythical variant. But still, worse then ice.

[BaconBits]

Doesn't help that most ice mages don't follow the ABC's (Always Be Casting), so they actually do far worse than a decent black mage that could be goofing off.

[Doozer]

I've had a couple of those runs as well and they are beyond aggravating. Although I'm knocking on wood I've yet to disconnect at such an awful time.

I wonder... Would the asian side of the game truly care about fixing dr at all? Because this needs some serious fixing/improvement.

It would be nice to have some improvements. People are always going to quit when things don't go their way, so at the very least allowing people to back-fill would solve the majority of issues. At least it would become much harder to be so short on people that you physically can't complete it.

[Doozer]

Anyway, guess I'm doing 9 level 70 dungeons to finish my relic, because I can't deal with that garbage anymore. Quitters are a way greater plague on this game than anything else.

Sorry to double post but, like some kind of cosmic joke, I loaded in to the first dungeon of the nine more I need to finish and the tank left. Like, fully left the party. It's just The Burn, but apparently if people get it for a roulette they just quit. They were even on my server so I thought maybe when we were done I'd message them and ask why they left, and inform them that my co-DPS was even new to the dungeon, but they were offline. I guess they just logged out because of the 30 minute penalty.

Here I was thinking I wouldn't see people leaving so quickly. They were gone before the new player was even out of the cutscene.

[BaconBits]

I think it might be time to give DF a break.

[Cincierta]

Question were they dumb? Sounds like they got a clear without having to much work. Seems like you are the one that is holding the L.

Either way good on you to recovery and finish the run.

They were indeed dumb. After the run I considered jumping over to their server to tell them not to do that and be a smart healer, but that would've just simply invited more trouble than what it was worth.