Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
If newbies need the vets to carry them that's on the newbies, not the vets. The content wasn't so hard it couldn't be done, most just didn't even try to coordinate it.

I attempted to assist multiple groups trying that fight. Hands down the best strat was for the off healer and the off tank to man the cannons so the dps could focus on the dragon and the adds. Off tank / Off Healer much higher aoe damage via the cannons than they would have normally.

Guess how many people actually did that? Hell most people ignored the cannons all together (when it was new).

At some point it's not worth the headache to try and help people who actively will NOT listen.

That's for each player to decide. But if you have enough bad group experiences in certain content, I can't blame people for seeing "Steps of Faith" pop up and they bolt.
Personally, I rarely had problems finding someone to get the other cannon when the trial was new. The issue was that it was hard to find a third to hit the dragonkiller when we went for the tethers.

For me, it felt like it was more an issue of people who've already played the trial but never bothered to learn it, then getting it in roulette and still not bothering to learn it. I didn't really think it was really a big deal that first timers just coasted. The issue was that since it was by far the most common trial anyone would get in the months leading to HW's release, yet most people never did anything but blindly DPS.

Maybe if Vishaps had an invulnerability shield at the beginning and the first gate had a dragonkiller that broke the shield, people might've learned that this was actually a gimmick fight and it wouldn't have been nerfed. I don't see people failing Lakshmi so badly despite the orbs basically being the same sort of mechanic. Most of the time, the bad parties just meant that it took longer to beat her, rather than actually failing it.