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I get you trying to make a argument against Kenky but sorry to say, neither do/did Blizzard. They rented out hotell suits that a few developers named that, does not = company has x suite.

More like a point about the current state of affairs in Blizzard that is basically turning Blizzard into Activision thanks to a whole bunch of.... "bad behavior". If you aren't aware of what's going on inside of Blizzard, nor the impact that has had on WoW over the last couple of expansions, you need to go do your research.

But, more to the point, Square Enix isn't Blizzard, they don't have a corporate culture that fosters that level of abuse (yes, those allegations are real, heart breaking, and not an SJW play to take over Blizzard), and Square Enix is (obviously) also Japanese. What may be true about lawsuits and litigation relating to in-game stuff (in this case, most likely not) for an American game dev company may not be true for a Japanese one.

To be honest, if you are going to try to go down this line of "SqUaRe EnIx WiLl GeT sUeD fOR bAnNiNg Me OfF oF dIsCorD iNfOrMaTiOn", then you need to go read all the pages I linked because you'll see that you basically don't have a legal way to actually sue SE due to what you agreed to in order to play.

Kenky has clearly not done this, otherwise they would have never made those arguments.

[Kenky]

Kenky has clearly not done this, otherwise they would have never made those arguments.

Alright, you asked for this.

In your recent post, you showed two particular points in the Terms of Service with Final Fantasy XIV. Most notably, 10.9 and 11.

Both of these protect Square Enix from Legal action from its players. But I never said it would be the player who would pursue legal action. I even pointed out it would be a Privacy Breach and Discord (A company, not a person) holding them accountable for violating their own Terms of Service.

10.9 protects Square Enix from Legal action from its playerbase, stating that nothing they do will get them any compensation beyond a new copy of final fantasy (at extreme cases)

11 protects Square Enix from consultation fees and legal fees, based on the individual players actions (or inactions thereof) that leads to a denial of continued service.

Lastly, you made a deluded comparison between "Illegally obtaining information" and "Girlfriend telling" as a form of 'anonymous tip'. Even "Tips" given to the Police still need actual AND LEGALLY OBTAINED evidence to be acted on. The Police (outside of maybe a few less law-abiding law enforcements.. Yes, those exist) needs actual reason to investigate and act upon information given to them.

As a result, anonymous tips are simply classed as "rumors" until they gain legal capacity to follow up on it. They aren't going to bash down doors based on rumors and here say, especially when people are known to abuse the anonymity part of the tip-giving system. Usually for stupid reasons or outright spite.

Square Enix is an International Company nowadays and as a result, they have to play by the books. If they don't (By violating privacy regulations, a la using info they are not legally allowed to use to punish people) then they will suddenly find themselves unable to offer their product in said country.

How hard is it to fathom that Company A cannot use information on Company Bs database to punish people without Company Bs explicit consent? Go back to coming up with "better suggestions" for housing, instead of trying to sound smarter than you are. Maybe you'll be taken seriously one day and treated like a person, rather than an annoyance.

With that, I am done.

[Almagnus1]

How hard is it to fathom that Company A cannot use information on Company Bs database to punish people without Company Bs explicit consent?

And why do you assume there isn't an existing agreement between Square Enix and Discord to share data in matters of TOS enforcement?

Why do you assume that Square Enix can't just wait until the game logs have sufficient proof based off of the Discord leads so they can take action and ban people?

We know that SE does ban people for RMT (see https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...17da61235fd9e1 ), but we don't know how they are actually detecting and generating the evidence to ban someone for RMT. It would be foolhardy to automatically rule out Discord as "safe" ground.

[Kenky]

And why do you assume there isn't an existing agreement between Square Enix and Discord to share data in matters of TOS enforcement?

Because By Law, Discord would have to publicly state that they have a deal with Square Enix that allows them to collect data and general information on its users. If that truly were the case, then the house-sellers wouldn't use it. Similar to how someone breaking into your house isn't going to stick around when they hear the sirens coming.

Seriously, go back to talking about Housing. Law is not your strong suit.

[Almagnus1]

Because By Law, Discord would have to publicly state that they have a deal with Square Enix that allows them to collect data and general information on its users. If that truly were the case, then the house-sellers wouldn't use it. Similar to how someone breaking into your house isn't going to stick around when they hear the sirens coming.

Please state the specific penal code that it would violate.

Seriously, go back to talking about Housing. Law is not your strong suit.

At least I'm not pretending to be a lawyer here.

[Kenky]

Please state the specific penal code that it would violate.

Pretty damn rich for you to ask for evidence to back a claim, when you never do it yourself.

I will happily provide evidence for my stance, once you decide to do it yourself. No point in breaking my butt for some hoity-toighty drama queen that can't accept they've lost.

[Almagnus1]

Pretty damn rich for you to ask for evidence to back a claim, when you never do it yourself.

I will happily provide evidence for my stance, once you decide to do it yourself. No point in breaking my butt for some hoity-toighty drama queen that can't accept they've lost.

You saying that to yourself?

Besides, it's not like we actually have ownership rights to any of the content we put on the social media platforms. For example, any picture you post on Facebook becomes Facebooks (and you lose all rights to said image) for Facebook to do with as they wish, and completely deny you any monetization derived from said image.

That said, you cannot debunk what I am saying because you know what I am saying is true - so you will resort to flaming me because that is the only recourse you have left. It would actually be kinda funny if it wasn't so pathetically transparent.