There should be other ways to obtain the Field notes.

[Herebedragons]

That's because the mount doesn't scale with your character's size, so it looks pretty dumb when lalafells ride it. Other races are fine though, it's pretty cool.

As for the object of the thread, this is your typical case of #gitgud, thank god we still have some of those in the game, albeit sporadically. Do the duels. It's not hard to get in now thanks to the notoriety system and it's not hard to do them with the flare star cheese strat.



You need to trigger it by killing specific mobs.

I know that, thank you very much. I wasted 80 minutes farming gunships on my own... Also, cheesing the duels has nothing to do with "gitgud", nothing to be proud of here.

[Lastelli]

I know that, thank you very much. I wasted 80 minutes farming gunships on my own... Also, cheesing the duels has nothing to do with "gitgud", nothing to be proud of here.

It has, because you need to be good enough to do the required CE without getting hit and to correctly do the mechanics of the first minute of the duel. Not much, right? So why are people complaining? Never said there's anything to be proud of. If you're after the mount, though, it's not hard to get at all and it's actually extremely easy if you do the duels.

Oh by the way, since An Immoral Dilemma is linked to a CE, it won't spawn it there are other active CEs, duels or there are active FATEs linked to them...I suggest you give it another shot. Enter Zadnor, go semi-afk and wait for it to spawn. If it doesn't start killing mobs after 1 hour. It will spawn eventually. Yeah, not the best system they could conceive since it's dependent on other players in the instance actively doing fates and CEs and now most people are just afking, but it is what it is...

[suibian]

If you can do the duels good on ya mate.

If you can't, the RNG from the Dalriada chest shouldn't be so bad, or there could be a pity system / token exchange for it, exactly the same as for EX mounts.

Imo the notes should not have been rewards for both duels as well as RNG drop from chest, because we end up with this situation of telling people to duel for it instead of addressing the really bad drop rate.

[Herebedragons]

It has, because you need to be good enough to do the required CE without getting hit and to correctly do the mechanics of the first minute of the duel. Not much, right? So why are people complaining? Never said there's anything to be proud of. If you're after the mount, though, it's not hard to get at all and it's actually extremely easy if you do the duels.

Oh by the way, since An Immoral Dilemma is linked to a CE, it won't spawn it there are other active CEs, duels or there are active FATEs linked to them...I suggest you give it another shot. Enter Zadnor, go semi-afk and wait for it to spawn. If it doesn't start killing mobs after 1 hour. It will spawn eventually. Yeah, not the best system they could conceive since it's dependent on other players in the instance actively doing fates and CEs and now most people are just afking, but it is what it is...

I was wondering already, but why do you keep assuming I don't already know all that? I've done my research, and after some trial and error (excuse me for venting a bit, apparently) found that An Immoral Dilemma is not worth trying to spawn on my own. In the instances I've been in, barely anyone farms mobs. When they do, they just obliterate everything in their path, not the specific ones I need, not at the location where I need them. From Beyond the Grave seems to be more efficient. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've gathered 47 notes this way in a couple of weeks, I can tough it out for the last 3.

I wasn't talking about the duels, but the cheese strat itself. If the people urging everyone else to stop complaining and go for the duels instead are so gud, then why do they need an exploit to make it? Also, I've just witnessed a RDM try it and fail spectacularly with the boss below 10%. I know my limits, so I'll take my chances with RNG.

If you can do the duels good on ya mate.

If you can't, the RNG from the Dalriada chest shouldn't be so bad, or there could be a pity system / token exchange for it, exactly the same as for EX mounts.

Imo the notes should not have been rewards for both duels as well as RNG drop from chest, because we end up with this situation of telling people to duel for it instead of addressing the really bad drop rate.

Thank you.

[Lastelli]

I was wondering already, but why do you keep assuming I don't already know all that?

Because I have a hard time believing that a fate is giving you so much trouble. Either you're extremely unlucky or you're doing something wrong. And I had some trouble with that fate too and an end to atrocities as well. Keep trying.

If you can do the duels good on ya mate.

If you can't, the RNG from the Dalriada chest shouldn't be so bad, or there could be a pity system / token exchange for it, exactly the same as for EX mounts.

Imo the notes should not have been rewards for both duels as well as RNG drop from chest, because we end up with this situation of telling people to duel for it instead of addressing the really bad drop rate.

Not the same thing honestly. Extreme mounts actually require you to clear somewhat challenging content (x99), at least when it's relevant. Then you have to wait a few months for it to become tradable. It would be like asking for the EX mounts to have a 100% drop rate on extreme trials and a lower drop rate on the hard version. Not a fan of the idea.

Duels are around the same difficulty as ex trials. The mount is your reward for clearing them and pretty much the sole reason for it, and you only need to clear them once. Drops from castrum and dalriada shouldn't even be there to begin with and I think they were added because it was originally difficult to engage in duels, but the notoriety system rectified this. It's not like everything should be obtainable by everybody. But anyway, this system was clearly designed to tell players "you're supposed to do the duels if you want the shiny new mount, if you don't, start praying to rngesus", and I think it's absolutely fine. Having challenging content without good rewards would be much worse for an mmorpg.

[Vahlnir]

Because I have a hard time believing that a fate is giving you so much trouble. Either you're extremely unlucky or you're doing something wrong. And I had some trouble with that fate too and an end to atrocities as well. Keep trying.



Not the same thing honestly. Extreme mounts actually require you to clear somewhat challenging content (x99), at least when it's relevant. Then you have to wait a few months for it to become tradable. It would be like asking for the EX mounts to have a 100% drop rate on extreme trials and a lower drop rate on the hard version. Not a fan of the idea.

Duels are around the same difficulty as ex trials. The mount is your reward for clearing them and pretty much the sole reason for it, and you only need to clear them once. Drops from castrum and dalriada shouldn't even be there to begin with and I think they were added because it was originally difficult to engage in duels, but the notoriety system rectified this. It's not like everything should be obtainable by everybody. But anyway, this system was clearly designed to tell players "you're supposed to do the duels if you want the shiny new mount, if you don't, start praying to rngesus", and I think it's absolutely fine. Having challenging content without good rewards would be much worse for an mmorpg.

I still don't see how wanting an alternative like having to spend an insane amount of coins for these field notes is a bad thing. There's enough incentive for people to do the duels and this wouldn't really change that. It'd still get them their mount faster, among other things. I don't want to not have to grind. Like some I would just like an alternative means. Make the higher rarity notes cost 100-500 platinum coins in Zadnor if need be. It would keep the content running a bit longer if there was something to actually work toward for those who struggle with duels. A slight increase in the drop rates from the instances wouldn't be a bad thing either. RNG is fine. Low RNG for content that won't be this active forever is not. Tying 2 notes to the same chest in the Dalriada was also a bad idea. It should have been Lyon in one and maybe Menenius as a potential drop in the final chest to keep most players from leaving before the final boss.

[Herebedragons]

Because I have a hard time believing that a fate is giving you so much trouble. Either you're extremely unlucky or you're doing something wrong. And I had some trouble with that fate too and an end to atrocities as well. Keep trying.



Not the same thing honestly. Extreme mounts actually require you to clear somewhat challenging content (x99), at least when it's relevant. Then you have to wait a few months for it to become tradable. It would be like asking for the EX mounts to have a 100% drop rate on extreme trials and a lower drop rate on the hard version. Not a fan of the idea.

Duels are around the same difficulty as ex trials. The mount is your reward for clearing them and pretty much the sole reason for it, and you only need to clear them once. Drops from castrum and dalriada shouldn't even be there to begin with and I think they were added because it was originally difficult to engage in duels, but the notoriety system rectified this. It's not like everything should be obtainable by everybody. But anyway, this system was clearly designed to tell players "you're supposed to do the duels if you want the shiny new mount, if you don't, start praying to rngesus", and I think it's absolutely fine. Having challenging content without good rewards would be much worse for an mmorpg.

I don't see how it's so unbelievable. I did state several times that I am doing this on my own. Mobs die slower, and I can't be aware of everything happening in the instance. Besides, from what I've seen, An Immoral Dilemma seems to have a lower spawn rate regardless. Not sure whether it's true or not, but I definitely didn't have that much trouble with An End to Atrocities.

The mount isn't a reward directly tied to the duels though. Most of the notes are obtained from everything other than duels. The exclusivety you seem happy with, if we can even call it that in this case, doesn't make any sense, especially when most people cheese the duels anyway.

[aesnevaeh]

Just spent over 2hrs waiting for FAF/Steel chain because it kept getting pushed back. The amount of just waiting for things is absolutely infuriating.

Edit: MY TIMER RAN OUT BEFORE IT POPPED. THE CEs STARTED TO CYCLE FROM THE LOWER ONES AGAIN. WHY? WHO DESIGNS THINGS LIKE THIS. HOW CAN ANYONE SIT THERE AND THINK THAT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA. WHO GREEN LIGHTS THIS GARBAGE?

I was looking around for a thread on this subject and this comment is spot on. The thread is a bit old, but the issue seems to persist, so I am endorsing it. Waiting is -not- fun. Two things I noted in the new content that aggravate the matter:

a) Players will not wait. I had a good experience with Eureka, despite many having not. There was some politeness to waiting before starting a fate/NM. Here? May the Odds be Ever in Your Favor to make it there in time. I gave up doing anything else and just parked by MTK and Steel while doing something else in real life (!?). CEs lock you in so even worse.

b) There is no notion of trackers, I believe because there is some different queue system. So not only do you have to wait, but you have to actively monitor the map rather than just set an alarm and forget it, or change an instance if needed.

It needs a pity system badly. Let me run CEs, CLL, or what have you towards the pity system and if I am fortunate to be around for the actual fate happening which is closer to a miracle, then great.

The Skirmishers like Steel which seem to require mobs to spawn are even more depressing. Saw 2 people going back and forth between *2 mobs* for nearly 30 minutes, compared to Eureka that had a whole area. You can't even get a larger party to speed it up.

I've gone through the Makai Master, and Saint of Firmament titles, but this, this really is beyond me. I can't understand what the person who designed this content was thinking. It's like the ARR Relic fate waiting for step 1000x worse as it involves horrible rng.

[Theodric]

I'd also like to see the drop rate increased. I think it's a sign of a problem when people who aren't even interested in the mount can end up with all the field notes but those actively seeking them out can end up missing out again and again and again.

Adding some of the rarer field notes to lockboxes strikes me as a solid compromise. It'd also spread people out more rather than leave a bunch of people only entering the instance in the hope of pursuing one specific FATE.

[InkSheep]

The thing irking me the most right now is tying both Menesius and Lyon's notes to a single chest in Dalriada.
I've gotten the former 5 times and Lyon 0 and I'm praying for the method of trading one for the other or a reason for me to spend all these coins.