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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    You conveniently ignore

    -13 year old faces; which look just like they warned us about when Yoship spoke about not including teenagers in the game.
    -Idle virgin hunch
    -Extremely skinny when you try any glam that isn't the starter race gear
    -Their faces barely look any different from the female's aside from the nose, in some cases they even look more like a woman than a man when compared to female viera
    -They look nothing like the male viera art they showed in 2015

    Many of us were basing our support for male viera on the male viera art of 2015, not the multigender/underage male we got.
    -Doesn't look like 13 year old faces to me.
    -/changepose
    -Good, skinny is nice
    -Good, they look great that way. ty for the bishounen race graphics team, keep up the amazing work
    -They actually do look like the concept art though:


    You're right, a lot of people, including myself, were basing their support on the concept art, which is basically what we got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    -Doesn't look like 13 year old faces to me.
    -/changepose
    -Good, skinny is nice
    -Good, they look great that way. ty for the bishounen race graphics team, keep up the amazing work
    -They actually do look like the concept art though:


    You're right, a lot of people, including myself, were basing their support on the concept art, which is basically what we got.
    Except that's the teenager they were talking about not wanting to add.
    The concept art that had a finished, full body, and more complete representation of male viera was the one where they looked like men.
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    Please argue about Viera in the Viera thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Except that's the teenager they were talking about not wanting to add.
    The concept art that had a finished, full body, and more complete representation of male viera was the one where they looked like men.
    Who said this concept art is of a teenager? They do have a youthful appearance since viera have long life spans, but they are adults.
    It's in the lore. Please stop trying to hijack male viera. :^)

    It's funny, you didn't seem to have a problem with their appearance at all when the trailer came out and we got to see the face options and etc... But as soon as you found out they were 2 inches shorter, they are suddenly a disappointment to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzjuzz View Post
    Being dissapointed is normal but it's not even the place to talk about that, there's 2 threads for male viera.
    You're speaking to the wrong person, senn's just disappointed at how bad of a reception male viera's got after the benchmark.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    Who said this concept art is of a teenager? They do have a youthful appearance since viera have long life spans, but they are adults.
    It's in the lore. Please stop trying to hijack male viera. :^)

    It's funny, you didn't seem to have a problem with their appearance at all when the trailer came out and we got to see the face options and etc... But as soon as you found out they were 2 inches shorter, they are suddenly a disappointment to you?
    1. If we judged them by the trailer you would've been the first one to say to wait for the benchmark to see if they have faces that actually look like men. A trailer is never enough to judge all the character creation options.
    2. Trailer only shows them in starter race gear which can mask how bad their proportions actually are; they're very very skinny, skinnier than even male elezen, and male elezen is already a walking skeleton.
    3. I listed all the factors that make male viera a disappointment which include them looking like underage children; this is the part you want to conveniently ignore but I will keep bringing it up.
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    Last edited by Amnmaat; 07-31-2021 at 11:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    1. If we judged them by the trailer you would've been the first one to say to wait for the benchmark to see if they have faces that actually look like men. A trailer is never enough to judge all the character creation options.
    2. Trailer only shows them in starter race gear which can mask how bad their proportions actually are; they're very very skinny, skinnier than even male elezen, and male elezen is already a walking skeleton.
    3. I listed all the factors that make male viera a disappointment which include them looking like underage children; this is the part you want to conveniently ignore but I will keep bringing it up.
    You're free to be disappointed, but male viera are meant to be slim and generally pretty/elegant looking (like I said, bishounen). And no, they don't look underage. It's a shame they aren't to your liking, but that's just how it is. It seems like this race just isn't meant for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    You're speaking to the wrong person, senn's just disappointed at how bad of a reception male viera's got after the benchmark.
    The reception has actually been pretty good from what I've seen! There's a select few people who are salty about it - they're usually whining about twitter and the darn "vocal minority", but I enjoy watching that quite a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Incorrect, they were meant to look like men according to the sketches.
    I don't know about that. The concept art of male viera I showed you just now seemed pretty faithful to the final product! Minus the tuft of fur on the chest (from the original concept).
    In any case, concept art isn't necessarily indicative of what the final product will look like in all cases.
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    Last edited by Senn; 07-31-2021 at 11:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    You're free to be disappointed, but male viera are meant to be slim and generally pretty/elegant looking (like I said, bishounen). And no, they don't look underage. It's a shame they aren't to your liking, but that's just how it is. It seems like this race just isn't meant for you.
    Not meant for me or for anyone according to Yoship.
    Incorrect, they were meant to look like men according to the sketches. They just capitulated to the people that wanted underage-looking males in the game. They totally created what they said they weren't going to create.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Not meant for me or for anyone according to Yoship.
    Incorrect, they were meant to look like men according to the sketches. They just capitulated to the people that wanted underage-looking males in the game. They totally created what they said they weren't going to create.
    I love how much time you've spent complaining about this. It fills me with joy because it will never change and you will just be disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    They look nothing like the male viera art they showed in 2015
    Many of us were basing our support for male viera on the male viera art of 2015, not the multigender/underage male we got.
    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    -They actually do look like the concept art though:


    You're right, a lot of people, including myself, were basing their support on the concept art, which is basically what we got.
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