So, a lottery system and a divide between FC and solo wards, eh?

[Almagnus1]

More band-aid fixes for an ongoing problem that could be so easily remedied with instanced housing.

Until Yoshi-P changes their mind on it... this is never going to see the light of day. Best we can do in the mean time is keep pressing SE to extend apartments.

[Themarvin]

As mentioned above and I agree to that.. the lottery system would make it worse as in 10 people camping the same spot... because they dont want to play the game... but then if lottery, it will be much tougher as not just 10 tickets for the plot... but maybe a few 100 more in the lotto, for that single plot creating lesser than 1% chance to get it.

[Jojoya]

As mentioned above and I agree to that.. the lottery system would make it worse as in 10 people camping the same spot... because they dont want to play the game... but then if lottery, it will be much tougher as not just 10 tickets for the plot... but maybe a few 100 more in the lotto, for that single plot creating lesser than 1% chance to get it.

You're assuming that SE will allow multiple tickets to be purchased and that the tickets would be cheap if so. Both are fairly unlikely to happen.

[Nepentha]

You're assuming that SE will allow multiple tickets to be purchased and that the tickets would be cheap if so. Both are fairly unlikely to happen.

Have they elaborated on that at all? I'm curious to see how they'll handle FC lottos and if only one person will be allowed to enter the drawing.

[Almagnus1]

Have they elaborated on that at all? I'm curious to see how they'll handle FC lottos and if only one person will be allowed to enter the drawing.

I'm hoping we get more information in the next live letter, and we're not waiting on PR junkets.

[BehindTheFlowers]

how will there be a lottery and a first come first serve for housing?
So you can be there before all other and still get it? And then the lottery people will just have to sit back and sulk again?
I suggested a lottery system ages ago, one that did not even constitute a major change to the whole system as it was. It was basically that you set a timer, and all that came to the plot from its avaliability to the timer actually made it possible to buy it, would be allowed to put down gil for the plot and thus have a lottery spot.
Ones the timer went off, it would close and draw among those that put down gil.
The winner got a mail with the deed, and the rest one with their gil back.
Then they could go on and try their luck again next time. Ofc taking in to account you can only go for one at the time, so people will be encouraged to go for the one they really want and not just swap about ones they get one.

But all we gotten so fare been half arsed, rubish and made so people would ruin it and just mess stuff up, and in the end the housing was just as horrible and you would still end up clicking buttons for hours on end till your wrist swells up and your elbow hurts. And yes I have been there... twice! First one was 8 hours, and you manage to hear quite a lot of podcast in 8 hours while clicking.
The other one was 10 hours clicking. And after that my wrist was swollen, and I decided to not bother with housing one bit ever again till they made it less dangerous for my poor wrists. (and yes I could have stopped, but being like 90% of players, I greed for a house to stuff my trophies in to and make a little bit of Eorzean decoration show out of.)

[Jojoya]

Have they elaborated on that at all? I'm curious to see how they'll handle FC lottos and if only one person will be allowed to enter the drawing.

This is what we have so far. I don't think any specific information beyond this has been released via third party interviews, probably because they're still working out the details.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5614790

A lottery system will be implemented for purchasing housing plots. Relocation rules will be adjusted, and there will be designated areas for purchasing plots via lottery, or first come, first served. These are currently in preparation for the release of the housing area in Ishgard.

Players will only be permitted to enter the lottery if they meet the requirements necessary to own housing. A number of features have been prepared to prevent RMT and troublemaking, such as depositing the gil upfront and disallowing participation on Free Trial accounts. Furthermore, there will be a gil penalty for those who do not purchase a plot after being selected in the lottery. Please note that this penalty will be quite strict.

Additionally, certain areas will be reserved for purchase as personal or free company housing. Details regarding this and other housing-related updates will be shared later.

I don't expect to see more details until the first Live Letter for 6.1 (which will probably be in January if they're on their usual patch publicity and release schedule).

Until then, we're left guessing based on what we've seen them do in the past.

The part I bolded raises questions. It sounds like you're not getting a house for a prize, you're getting a "license to buy".

Are they going to wait for X number of houses to be available on a world before holding a lottery? Are they going to hold a lottery at specific times (say 2nd and 4th Saturday of every month) then select a number of winners equal to the number of available plots at the time?

Are those available plots now a FFA for those who were picked as winners so the winners fight over who gets what? How long do they have to buy before their "license" expires and they get penalized?

how will there be a lottery and a first come first serve for housing?
So you can be there before all other and still get it? And then the lottery people will just have to sit back and sulk again?

Wards will be designated either as one or the other. We don't know how it will impact existing wards (could be they remain first come, first serve then all new wards added in the future are lottery, could be mixed, could be the entire thing is getting used as a beta test for them to figure out which works out best in practice).

They did say relocation rules are changing. I would imagine relocation will be limited to the FCFS wards, leaving the lottery wards pure lottery though that's still just a guess on my part.

Players are going to be sitting and sulking even with a lottery because a lottery doesn't fix the supply problem and they still can't get a house. It's amazing how many can't understand that the lottery is going to make it harder to get a house, not easier, because the amount of competition for what few houses are available will increase several fold.

[Nepentha]

This is what we have so far. I don't think any specific information beyond this has been released via third party interviews, probably because they're still working out the details.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5614790



I don't expect to see more details until the first Live Letter for 6.1 (which will probably be in January if they're on their usual patch publicity and release schedule).

Until then, we're left guessing based on what we've seen them do in the past.

The part I bolded raises questions. It sounds like you're not getting a house for a prize, you're getting a "license to buy".

Are they going to wait for X number of houses to be available on a world before holding a lottery? Are they going to hold a lottery at specific times (say 2nd and 4th Saturday of every month) then select a number of winners equal to the number of available plots at the time?

Are those available plots now a FFA for those who were picked as winners so the winners fight over who gets what? How long do they have to buy before their "license" expires and they get penalized?

I hate to say it but this sounds more and more like it's just going to be another nightmare. I'll reserve true judgment until they actually release more info. But as of right now, I'm meh about it.

[Vahlnir]

I hate to say it but this sounds more and more like it's just going to be another nightmare. I'll reserve true judgment until they actually release more info. But as of right now, I'm meh about it.

It is indeed going to be a whole other type of nightmare.

[Lucyfurr1988]

what will this mean for people who already own housing? do we keep our plots and then if they become available later on this will be implemented on them or are we gonna have to move too? might be a stupid question but im unsure and as per usual SE have only told us its being implemented and not full details