What is your biggest wish for endwalker that you know probably won't happen?

[TheMightyMollusk]

Make our Grand Company memberships actually mean something. They've been basically irrelevant since the first time we met Biggs and Wedge.

[SpanishInkwehsitor]

Playable Bangaa. Maybe Nu Mou
It would be nice to have an "ugly" race. Somthing a bit more unique than Humans with an odd feature. The only Exception is Hrothgar, And they are still buff handsome lion folk.

I read a while back that Square wants to stay away from bestial races cuz of the furry factor, which is a mission fail cuz they have the Viera and the Miqo’te.

Even still they got Hrothgar, which are like a 3 on the scale vs Bangaa/Nu Mou’s 4. I don’t think it’ll ever happen.

[RyuDragnier]

I read a while back that Square wants to stay away from bestial races cuz of the furry factor, which is a mission fail cuz they have the Viera and the Miqo’te.

Viera and Miqote are not furry. They're just humans/elves with animal ears and tail. That isn't furry, that's nekomimi.

[Elladie]

Let's see, G'raha Tia deciding that everyone in the Bad Future needed to die so that he could save his precious WoL? That wasn't genocide? I guess not since apparently Hydaelyn Sundering the world and everyone in it (apart from 3 people) was not genocide either but merely 'sad'

I do know that the people in the Bad Future didn't die because of some unexplained 'paradox' but that has only been clear after the event. G'raha expected that he would die himself and everyone in the Bad Future with him once he changed the past enough. He decided it was worth the sacrifice even though very large numbers of people in the Bad Future didn't agree and tried to stop him. Sounds familiar? It really should....

[TheMightyMollusk]

Let's see, G'raha Tia deciding that everyone in the Bad Future needed to die so that he could save his precious WoL? That wasn't genocide? I guess not since apparently Hydaelyn Sundering the world and everyone in it (apart from 3 people) was not genocide either but merely 'sad'

Also so that the majority of the population of the Source, and the entire population of the First, wouldn't be wiped out by the Eighth Calamity, but who's counting.

[RyuDragnier]

Let's see, G'raha Tia deciding that everyone in the Bad Future needed to die so that he could save his precious WoL? That wasn't genocide? I guess not since apparently Hydaelyn Sundering the world and everyone in it (apart from 3 people) was not genocide either but merely 'sad'

You mean the people who came up with the plan to begin with, those people who decided that a world where the WoL lived and was able to stop the 8th Calamity was more important than the hellhole they lived each day in? It was their decision, their plan. They were the ones who originally got into Crystal Tower and woke up G'raha Tia, he didn't wake up on his own.

[Elladie]

My reply with quote button isn't working, so apologies for that.

The people who came up with the plan to begin with were the Ironworks. The OMG short story in Tales from the Shadows makes it very clear that large numbers of folk opposed this plan, to the point where the Ironworks was under attack quite often and had to try to continue its work more or less in hiding.

And yes, of course, the plan saved all the people who had died in the Eighth Calamity. But the plan of Elidibus and Co would save all those who ceased to exist when Hydaelyn sundered the world. The point being, there is no 'right side' or 'good side'. Yoshi P expressed it much more eloquently than me in the quotes included by Theo and Laurent. No one in this struggle is evil, they're all fighting for what they see as right and just. The WoL just happens to be on one specific side and therefore that side is victorious

[Derio]

My biggest wish for EW is them fixing DRK Living Dead and Dark Mind. Also introducing the relic in the X.25 patch or earlier instead of the X.35 patch.

[KizuyaKatogami]

You mean the people who came up with the plan to begin with, those people who decided that a world where the WoL lived and was able to stop the 8th Calamity was more important than the hellhole they lived each day in? It was their decision, their plan. They were the ones who originally got into Crystal Tower and woke up G'raha Tia, he didn't wake up on his own.

The problem with this is that it goes against the message they’re trying to push this expansion. About the whole “move forward toward the future.” And they try to paint it as bad that the ascians are “stuck in the past.” But instead of that other timeline working toward the future, they instead send graha back and were willing to doom that timeline, without btw, the consent of the majority. In the end though if we’re going to say it’s okay because it’s so that the source and the first survive, the same can be said for the ascian plight, where the rejoining would make the world stable again and prevent loss of life to age and illness. Again, a matter of perspective.

[RyuDragnier]

The people who came up with the plan to begin with were the Ironworks. The OMG short story in Tales from the Shadows makes it very clear that large numbers of folk opposed this plan, to the point where the Ironworks was under attack quite often and had to try to continue its work more or less in hiding.

The problem with this is that it goes against the message they’re trying to push this expansion. About the whole “move forward toward the future.” And they try to paint it as bad that the ascians are “stuck in the past.” But instead of that other timeline working toward the future, they instead send graha back and were willing to doom that timeline, without btw, the consent of the majority. In the end though if we’re going to say it’s okay because it’s so that the source and the first survive, the same can be said for the ascian plight, where the rejoining would make the world stable again and prevent loss of life to age and illness. Again, a matter of perspective.

Incorrect on both of your parts. While at first there was pushback for trying to prevent the timeline from happening to begin with, that changed when they decided to instead "Save the Warrior of Light." This resulted in them getting constant support and supplies from people who we had helped in the past.

There is also nothing mentioning them getting constantly attacked, just that members of the Ironworks began leaving in large amounts in the beginning (before deciding to save the WoL), some taking by force supplies so they could try to survive in the wild.