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  1. #211
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    To be fair, I preferred the seriousness of ARR (I'm replaying it atm). People get killed and you feel some tension. NPCs get put to the sword the second the get tempered for instance. It's quite brutal when you think about it. And in ShB all beastmen are now in the Best Friends Club. I was really disappointed by that.

    On the other hand I find wanting a story to be 100% gritty kinda too edgy, sorry. These characters (the good ones anyway) are modeled after human behaviour. No human is 100% serious or sad all the time. Otherwise it's probably a depression.

    And writing a always dark and depressing story just tires out readers. Also, you need moments of high to put the low moments into context. If you write a story where nobody is in danger or everyone dies you just stop caring.

    I agree with the Y'shtola thing to 100%, though.
    I mean, Jesus fucking Christ. I like her but can we please stop with the fake death scenes so we can put them into a teaser trailer?

    Lastly, everyone who dislikes G'raha is just a big emotionless meanie. ; ;
    The thing is, again, no ones asking for everyone to die. We’re asking for consequences. Please tell me how it makes sense that the expansion with the highest stakes so far and what’s supposed to be the darkest story yet is the only expansion where no one dies, there’s no consequences for the protags, and the one filled with the most humor.If we know everything is just going to keep going our way, it just makes the story utterly dull. I’m not playing this game so i can watch some slice of life anime. I’m playing it because it’s a final fantasy game with a final fantasy story. Every single other ff game in the series has had the protagonists lose in some way or have some form of consequences. Some of them have even had the antagonists win. I can’t help but think it’s partially due to the community. People just can’t seem to bear the thought of their favorite character kicking the bucket and so they spam things on the likes of here or twitter or reddit and SE would think it’s bad for business to kill them off. The main reason i can’t stand graha is just the amount of plot armor he has tied to him rivaling that of Yshtola. And also the fact he was a big part of 5.3 which was by far my least favorite patch. I don’t even regard his 5.4+ character as himself really because it just feels like someone’s forced in OC lmao.
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    Last edited by KizuyaKatogami; 07-29-2021 at 01:32 AM.

  2. #212
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
    I liked the Crystal Exarch in 5.0. I dislike G'raha Tia after. There are too many different problems with G'raha Tia for me to like him, especially in 5.4 and 5.5. He is a redundant character who competes with Alphinaud to fulfill the same character archetype and role in the narrative as the nerdy best friend of the WoL, he casually abandons the people of the Crystarium and shoves his way into the WoL's life, the game hyped him up dying in 5.3... only for him to inexplicably survive, and he continues to haunt the game after having missed an opportune moment to exit the narrative on a good note. I don't vehemently hate the character, but I'll never enjoy him and think that I'd enjoy the game more if he had just gracefully bowed out in 5.3.

    As for humor, I overall liked the comedy moments in ShB. I don't think they detract from the game. A game can have a serious story and still have moments of levity. The comedy moments up spruce up the moment and sometimes help endear me to the characters. FFXII has an interesting plot, but the party members were very boring to watch for most of the story (outside of a handful of really well directed scenes, like when they meet the Gran Kitias, or when Ashe meets the Occuria, or the climax atop the Pharos).

    As someone mentioned before, there is a noticeable lack of consequences or loss for the main characters in FFXIV. The most that happens is that almost all of the fodder Scions are killed halfway through 2.0. After that, you have the Scion's being framed and becoming fugitives at the end of 2.55, but then it is nonchalantly washed away in 3.0. Only side characters get killed off. No main characters (Scions or nation leaders) bite the bullet. The heroes never fail or make mistakes, resulting in disastrous consequences. No city states get nuked. Etc. At most, the heroes are temporarily inconvenienced, such as the WoL getting bested by Zenos and then having to go level grind on the other side of the continent before coming back. If Y'shtola had actually bit it and the Alliance had to pull back out of Gyr Abania, it would have felt more impactful.
    Agree with the overall point, don't agree about XII. I do like some humour in it but G'raha twinkle-eyes was more cringeworthy than amusing to me. Estinien's confusion about Alisaie felt less shoehorned in and was at least funny. In the end, it's about finding a balance and keeping it fairly natural.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 07-29-2021 at 01:24 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  3. #213
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Bard Lv 100
    For MCH to be reworked but due to its massive fan base and applause from the least ambitious people that insist Aurum Vale is still too hard, it will never happen. It’s a dum-dum job now that’s its identity now and most likely forever
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  4. #214
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    A_moth_called_rose's Avatar
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    Straten Vynasch
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    Introduction of the discarded limsa lominsa ranged phys dps musketeer job that never got realized but still has the job placards laying around in the city. I've always wanted to play heavansward's style of cast time centric bard, called "bowmage" and I feel a marksman styled musketeer/marksman/sharpshooter/ect job theming would fit it well.
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    FFXIV - 1.0 classic servers (before the meteor) should happen. I think I want it, and I do.

  5. #215
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I'd love either a summoner class with pets that exist in the world, like SMN's used to (and can tank for me etc), or reverting the SMN to how it used to be back in the day.
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  6. #216
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    the exarch had the perfect send off with telling us to take his soul crystal with us on our adventures while he's "guarding" the tower and, if they wanted to "revive" him in the body of graha, it should've had side effects or maybe be part of some hail mary to an unsolvable problem
    then again, the plot point of yshtola depleting her life aether to "see" has been ignored the second after it was introduced, so I doubt it'll ever be a thing again (and would honestly feel pretty shoe horned in at this point imo)
    I hope they send off yshtola to the first to be with runar and for graha to take a more withdrawn role (tho my bet is that he'll continue to play a part past endwalker)
    maybe thancred could open up an orphanage or something
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  7. #217
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    Johanna Yevon
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    That I won't see Male Viera completely take over my screen, and remind me I gotta wait 2 more years for my Precious Female Hrothgar that Im more and More worried wont be worth the wait.
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  8. #218
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    All level 90 dungeons stay in Expert Roulette until the next expansion, so it's not just two dungeons at a time for two years.
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    Jye Greene
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    Cool looking monk relics
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  10. #220
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamsoap View Post
    Cool looking monk relics
    They day they stop making Monk's relics gloves that you can't un-equip will be a great day for world.
    They need to get creative with monk..start adding more spikes, more claws; but sometimes they should go simple as well and just make some bandages or simple boxing type gloves.

    A lot of times it feels they go for strange ideas for Monk's relic.
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